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bangbang023
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Midway through Korn's new "Y'all Want a Single" video, the words "The record company wanted us to change this video — we didn't" flash on the screen. It's not a joke.

"They locked us out of our own editing booth," singer Jonathan Davis said at Thursday's announcement of the Projekt Revolution Tour in Hollywood. "It's been crazy, the [uproar caused by] this video. That's what we like to do, though. We got to go up there and put our ass on the line for artists."

"Y'all Want a Single," the second release from Korn's recent Take a Look in the Mirror, is an angst-fueled, expletive-riddled protest against the record industry. The video is even harsher.

"It's gonna cause a big stir in the music business, period, because it's basically a video about us destroying a record store, and all this different verbiage comes up talking about how really corrupt the music industry is," Davis said. "We're just asking for it with this video, and it's pretty amazing. We're really excited about it."

Epic Records, Korn's label, did not immediately respond to a request for comment
snocked
Great. Another angst-filled record.

They try to make it seem like they're less corporate by trying to show how hardcore they are. Of course a lot of people will buy it up helplessly. rolleyes.gif

If they didn't approve of the video, they wouldn't let it be released for MTV and MuchMusic. Period.
anakinsolois
wel what kinda music do ya listen to anywayz snocked?? Well, ill wait for the video (if its released)
bangbang023
QUOTE (anakinsolois @ Mar 2 2004, 04:23 AM)
wel what kinda music do ya listen to anywayz snocked?? Well, ill wait for the video (if its released)

you can watch it on launch.yahoo.com
Wirefire
korn is horrid rock anyway if you want some good talanted musicians check out the red chord, burnt buy the sun, ion dissonance, remebering never, and many more
bangbang023
well hasn't this thread turned into a moronic flame fest.
Wirefire
no its not flame i understand why people would like korn i mean hell they were my fav band along with slipknot i have korns first 4 cds, but eventually that music gets old and you want to move on to something that is more of a challange, i play music to so i understand the need to keep moving on to more difficlut things i posted those band names because those bands will be the movers of the hard rock industry in the years to come
Deftone
korn died a long time ago, when they decided to try and go mainstream-like. this video is just them trying to look like they arent corporate sellouts.
gofikphoenix
Indeed Korn did die long ago. I am wondering why this is under 'entertainment'. on topic though i think thats stupid, they must of done it for a reason even if they wanted to attract attention, but then again they are getting us/me writing here and talkin about it.
bangbang023
Korn is far from "dying" They simply aren't a teen main stream band anymore. Their music is as good as ever.
gofikphoenix
yeh perhaps 'n' deftone sayin dying is wrong, as they are still all alive when i last looked. they were never in my mainstream anyway maybe i was one rock music generation younger than the rock generation they attracted. i got into linkin park which got me into rock.
bangbang023
QUOTE (gofikphoenix @ Mar 2 2004, 03:55 PM)
yeh perhaps 'n' deftone sayin dying is wrong, as they are still all alive when i last looked. they were never in my mainstream anyway maybe i was one rock music generation younger than the rock generation they attracted. i got into linkin park which got me into rock.

lol yeah you definitely are a little too young to really know what korn has done to the industry.
Deftone
no offense bb..but its kinda the otherway around. It used to be deep, hard-felt, hard played music. Now John Davis cries on every concert to please the public, they've changed their lyrics and way of playing to suit what ppl like best, and have used other bands to promote their work so it would get more popular. Its more teen oriented now, the best 2 cds were the first 2..from there it just decayed..thats what i meant by dying.
bangbang023
QUOTE (Deftone @ Mar 2 2004, 04:31 PM)
no offense bb..but its kinda the otherway around. It used to be deep, hard-felt, hard played music. Now John Davis cries on every concert to please the public, they've changed their lyrics and way of playing to suit what ppl like best, and have used other bands to promote their work so it would get more popular. Its more teen oriented now, the best 2 cds were the first 2..from there it just decayed..thats what i meant by dying.

the guy is simply writing how he feels. Do you know anything about his depression problems and the medication he is on daily to help him fight it? I guess I can sympathize with him more than you because I know how he feels.
.::PHPfanatic::.
I've never heard Korn before but they don't look like the type of band I'd be interested in. Therefore, I'm not sure whether or not they've died, and quite frankly, I could care less.

QUOTE (Wirefire @ Mar 2 2004, 02:19 PM)
no its not flame i understand why people would like korn i mean hell they were my fav band along with slipknot i have korns first 4 cds, but eventually that music gets old and you want to move on to something that is more of a challange, i play music to so i understand the need to keep moving on to more difficlut things i posted those band names because those bands will be the movers of the hard rock industry in the years to come

Why do you refer to it as "moving on to more difficult things"? It's difficult for me to listen to bands such as this because of the fact it's dreadfully obnoxious, with the screaming, etc. I admit I've listened to very few but the ones I have heard I don't like; it's the noise that gets on my nerves, much less the fact that I hear very little of what they're saying... this bothers me about most of today's songs. In the same sense, it would be difficult for you to listen to classical or jazz it seems. The reason I don't mind classical and jazz is because of the lack of lyrics. This way I don't have to sit around trying to decipher what the heck they are going on about, the majority of the time it's love anyway so I don't care. Oh, welcome to Geeknewz. smile.gif I'm just trying to make a point. Well received?


Corn is my favorite vegetable but I must say I hate how it gets stuck in between your teeth, especially when you have braces. It doesn't bother me to a great extent but I am glad when there kernels are out.
Deftone
QUOTE (bangbang023 @ Mar 2 2004, 04:44 PM)

the guy is simply writing how he feels. Do you know anything about his depression problems and the medication he is on daily to help him fight it? I guess I can sympathize with him more than you because I know how he feels.

uve just bought into everything man. He used to be like that, now its all commercial, and ppl are just gulfing it up. Depression my butt, just as pathetic as Fred Durst with his "oh my god im so whiney". It used to be cool, its not anymore, and he fake cries in concerts now (Davis) . They want hard life, they can come to the hoods over here in my city and see what its really like to have nothing. Angst is just for teenagers.
bangbang023
QUOTE (.::PHPfanatic::. @ Mar 2 2004, 04:51 PM)
I've never heard Korn before but they don't look like the type of band I'd be interested in. Therefore, I'm not sure whether or not they've died, and quite frankly, I could care less.

QUOTE (Wirefire @ Mar 2 2004, 02:19 PM)
no its not flame i understand why people would like korn i mean hell they were my fav band along with slipknot i have korns first 4 cds, but eventually that music gets old and you want to move on to something that is more of a challange, i play music to so i understand the need to keep moving on to more difficlut things i posted those band names because those bands will be the movers of the hard rock industry in the years to come

Why do you refer to it as "moving on to more difficult things"? It's difficult for me to listen to bands such as this because of the fact it's dreadfully obnoxious, with the screaming, etc. I admit I've listened to very few but the ones I have heard I don't like; it's the noise that gets on my nerves, much less the fact that I hear very little of what they're saying... this bothers me about most of today's songs. In the same sense, it would be difficult for you to listen to classical or jazz it seems. The reason I don't mind classical and jazz is because of the lack of lyrics. This way I don't have to sit around trying to decipher what the heck they are going on about, the majority of the time it's love anyway so I don't care. Oh, welcome to Geeknewz. smile.gif I'm just trying to make a point. Well received?


Corn is my favorite vegetable but I must say I hate how it gets stuck in between your teeth, especially when you have braces. It doesn't bother me to a great extent but I am glad when there kernels are out.

Well for people, like me, who fight off feelings of anger or sadness, this music helps us. If you don't like it, fine, but must you go through every thread about rock music and say you don't like it? It gets rather old and annoying. This is music I LIKE. You don't like it, that's fine, your opinion, but, at the same time, you don't need to troll through the threads that focus on this stuff and force your opinion at us and, at the same time, mock the ban (the whole 'corn' joke).
bangbang023
QUOTE (Deftone @ Mar 2 2004, 04:59 PM)
QUOTE (bangbang023 @ Mar 2 2004, 04:44 PM)

the guy is simply writing how he feels. Do you know anything about his depression problems and the medication he is on daily to help him fight it? I guess I can sympathize with him more than you because I know how he feels.

uve just bought into everything man. He used to be like that, now its all commercial, and ppl are just gulfing it up. Depression my butt, just as pathetic as Fred Durst with his "oh my god im so whiney". It used to be cool, its not anymore, and he fake cries in concerts now (Davis) . They want hard life, they can come to the hoods over here in my city and see what its really like to have nothing. Angst is just for teenagers.

Don't tell me it's BS. I was on the same damned medication, so, to me, it's real. Big deal, he has tons of money, doesn't mean he's happy. You know when stuff happens to you like your own father raping you, you tend to carry it with you for a long time. I applaud him for making himself better slowly but surely.
.::PHPfanatic::.
I'm sorry, bb, I didn't know it had such a positive influence on you. As I said, I've listened to these bands very, very little, so my opinion can be easily written off. To me, personally, it seems like it would have the opposite effect on someone... it seems as if it would make that person more depressed. But I've heard these songs contain interesting philosophical issues... I don't know. Looking at your signature I may see what the attraction is... Is it kind of reverse-engineering (I've forgotten the word), do you know what I mean? He's talking about suicide so it makes you feel better... like you're not alone.

That's what he says happened to him...
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You know when stuff happens to you like your own father raping you, you tend to carry it with you for a long time.

Don't take this as another insult toward your music preference but, if you ask me, "publicity stunt". Kind of like that Marilyn Manson guy (sorry snocked, I know you like him), he's only in it for the money and he's not demented like he seems. I doubt it.
gofikphoenix
As i am not sure what part of the post PHP is refering too i have decided to delete it all. Would some mod/bb delete this post.
.::PHPfanatic::.
Don't sympathize with me, gofix, bangbang has a very strong emotional attachment to his songs. I don't want to hurt his feelings again... maybe you should edit it out. Although many other people are stating their opinions which he isn't taking a liking to... I guess it's ok.

Realize, I've not listened to his music (I don't know if I ever have). Call it a music genre stereotype but all these songs seem pretty much the same. I have listened to "Stan" before, by "colorful chocolate-covered peanuts", and it does seem many people are fanatical over these newage artists these days.
Deftone
theres no feeling anymore its all stunt. Personally for example ...I like Marylin Manson's songs but...i admit that the way he dresses is specially made to draw attention becaues its osmething ppl will always talk about. its hte way korn has gotten to be. BB i understand the point of using music to deal because i do it myself, i live for music, but there are plenty of other bands that have the feeling and none of the crap. Old korn songs had feelings, the new korn has nothing...the style is terrible, the singing is worse. The riffs are still somewhat cool but in my opinion its degenerated. I didnt say he had to be happy coz he was rich, but if u compared that to the little girl on the street who gets raped everyday not just once and who has only one arm because of a terrible accident, who is starving because she cant get food and who is sad coz she doesnt have a family...john davis is a *****.
bangbang023
One's problems aren't any easier to handle because someone else has it worse.
Deftone
true but it makes that someone else's problems a pathetic plea, that is not really an issue. Ive worked in hospitals with spastics, retaded children, wounded children from accidents, terminal patients...those are ppl who really need the love, the substance, who really should be pissed off, with all the angst they can get adn scream it at the world, but the fact is they dont, they smile and deal with life as best they can and will be nice to u even though they know inside they are dying. That is the answer, to seek whats best for others and neglecting ur own problems. This band is just another teen rock band, it wasnt like that before... its all in this new age of music where artist are just playing worse and worse.
bangbang023
Everyone handles things different. He IS pissed off. I don't give a damn about people in the hospitals (in regards to this argument). He has a pain, just like I do, just like everyone has, and this is how he handles it and he does it by doing something he loves, which is making music. Should he sit at home and let it bottle up? He is pissed and is venting. He's pissed about the past and he is pissed about how generic rock is nowadays. If you listen to enough music, you will realize how non-generic Korn is. When you put on the radio and it's in the middle of a Korn song, even if you don't know the song, you know it's Korn. Their style has not been copied. Many have tried to do variations on it, including Limp Bizkit who spawned from Korn, but none have suceeded. Korn is founder of modern rock, angry rock that deals with realerissues than most bands did in the past (most, not all). Johnathan writes lyrics that he and his fans relate to. In the end, they have been around for over 10 years and continue to mak great music that is liked by many music lovers (korn fans or not).
gofikphoenix
Really even though i have contributed to this and gone off topic myself we are really getting offtopic.gif

Also i wanted to use that emociton he he he smile.gif
BTW BB/PHP i apoligise could u delete my post above and also if you think im a prick telling you (the great BB wink.gif ) to get back on topic then tell me i'm a prick smile.gif
Deftone
lol..korn aint the founder of anything..they are followers of many other bands of the past...and bad ones at that...if u hear their musical influence u would not believe as to how they got to play the music they did...


but anyway..seen as this is getting to be a personal argument i shall say no more..u can like korn if u want to.
snocked
QUOTE (Deftone @ Mar 2 2004, 08:23 PM)
korn died a long time ago, when they decided to try and go mainstream-like. this video is just them trying to look like they arent corporate sellouts.


QUOTE (Deftone @ Mar 2 2004, 08:28 PM)

uve just bought into everything man. He used to be like that, now its all commercial, and ppl are just gulfing it up. Depression my butt, just as pathetic as Fred Durst with his "oh my god im so whiney". It used to be cool, its not anymore, and he fake cries in concerts now (Davis) . They want hard life, they can come to the hoods over here in my city and see what its really like to have nothing. Angst is just for teenagers.

You and I finally agree on something. laugh.gif
Deftone
lol...miracle come true snocked tongue.gif okay okay now i can allow u guys to get back on topic
snocked
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Don't take this as another insult toward your music preference but, if you ask me, "publicity stunt".  Kind of like that Marilyn Manson guy (sorry snocked, I know you like him), he's only in it for the money and he's not demented like he seems.  I doubt it.

Demented? Typically misinformed or a lack of knowledge makes people think this. I don't want to know where you got that notion from.

Don't apologize.
gofikphoenix
Marylin Manson was a normal kid, i seen him dancing randomly when he was like 6 years old. I watched this program bout him aparently if they had been asked who you would think would be a rock star when they were older the person they would have never said was him. Just shows you how people can be influence by other people. Who influenced mazza anyway? Alice Cooper? I can't help being offtopic.gif
bangbang023
closing my own thread

Thread Closed, off topic severly
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