Here's another rather controversial one... do you believe in luck?
I personally do not. I think of it as a word derived from random since that's the only determining factor. Person 'x' does one thing while person 'y' does the exact same thing but the results are different (or the same if neither person 'x' or 'y' aren't winners). It seems obvious to me but who's to say it does to others.

It has been hypothesized that an optimistic behavior rather than a pessimistic one will increase your "luck". This is odd seeing as your mindset would seem as if it has nothing to do with you; but rather your actions. Although they seem to go hand in hand. The optimistic one takes more chances while the pessimistic one takes slim to none. I guess I'm up 5hit-creek without a paddle.

What do you believe, eh?

I do not believe in luck... lol a funny thing is some people think slot machines can be affected by a person's luck .. stuff like that makes me mad lol

Yeah, that's ridiculous... they surely need someone to set them straight before they go bankrupt.

I gotta say its getting a bit tiresome of these your religion/ your views topics but i also see some people do like to be kinda noisey about other people, but if some people tell them stuff then they ent really being noisey, i should shut up. Nah i dont believe in luck.

No. You have freedom of speech just as everyone else, as long as you can find a way to incorporate it into the topic some way or another, which you have done quite nicely. You don't have to participate in threads like this one if you don't want to, you always have that perogative.

I know, i did put it into the topic nicely.

I do relise that i and you have the freedom of speech... inside the rules and maybe i just like talking to you, but now i have dragged myself into this thread so i mite as well be a leading figure in it.

On topic:

Well luck is a very strange thing, i dont believe in luck. But i see for some people they believe in luck not because of luck but because of bad luck, if they have had a really bad day then they usually tend to saying something like just my luck, so indirectly they are semi believing in luck. Perhaps i kinda believe in luck because when i sign onto msn messenger i either only have good people online or bad people but maybe i disguise it as good fortune. But really everything happens or is done for a reason, you just have to find that reason.

Look its a 13 year old going philisophical... and i'm not even sure i spelt that right. Maybe i'm just lucky that PHP is nearly always here to make conversation with.


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What a cheesy post!

No luck.

In the United States you have freedom of speech, but watch what you say.

hahaha

I have to say you should become a great philosopher gofikphoenix I have to agree on the luck/bad luck thing. I don't really believe in luck, because I don't seem to be a lucky person, but doesn't that mean that there is something like luck? If I say I'm not lucky, then it implies there's the possibility of being lucky. Anyway, I think we could also talk about fate, because luck has something to do with fate. I mean, lucky is being made to win, that's fate...

Well...hmmm...let's see...

For example...I choose a number between 1 to 10...And you were able to guess the right one. You had a 10% chance to get the right number and you got it. It's all about odds...When the odds go your way...I call it luck, it's just a name.

yeah like Kenut said i believe in luck it just means that you are beating the odds nothing else... but the question is can someone always be lucky or produce luck for others well i dont think so but some people can beat the odds a hell of a lot more and thats being lucky.

If anyone is interested in foreign films then i have a great one all about Luck its Spanish movie called Intacto - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220580/

"Sam is a World War II concentration camp survivor who possesses the ability to steal, sell, or give away "good luck" to anyone he chooses. He steals luck from Federico, an earthquake survivor, who swears vengeance. Federico meets Tomas, a recent plane crash survivor, who just may be the man to help."

well, luck is just another name for randomness isnt it? if so, i guess i believe in luck.

I agree with Kenut luck is chance which in maths people call it probability. Like if your playing a game which involves dice then you may think its luck but really if you roll the dice 600 times you should get 100 of each number but sometimes it leans certain ways, i like to call luck chance. Thank you psYchotic and happy birthday.

Thanks, and what a nice avatar you have there
But here I have to say that what you are saying is not completely right. If you roll the dice 600 times you could have 100 of each number. But the fact is, that you get 16,66666% (100/6) of each if you would roll the dice an infinite amount of times. Due to the fact infinity is not a real number, we can't really talk about what you should or shouldn't get. It's all about randomness. And then the probability thing is nothing more than theoretical

Ok maybe i shouldn't become a philospher (thats a sorcerer for you americans (harry potter ) ) My avatar is Carman Electra, and i bet the reason you chose that smiley is cause she knocked you out lol. Yeh i think i got my words a bit messed up, also i suck at english. Maybe i should revert to my old bad luck existence theory.. i got more respect

i dun really believe in luck in the sense u can really be jinxed or have bad luck if u do such and such thing. However, i have used the word luck from tiem to time when something went my way, even though I just think it coincidence.

Yes, I use the word luck from time to time as well but don't believe in it, or at least the word; of course, I call it randomness.

hehe
....luck can be mathematically proven i bet, given any case.

perhaps deftone. though sometimes 'luck' is in very wierd places/cases so it would be hard to make a mathematical decision on it.

for us simple minds I bet it would. However, if you can say calculate the pattern in which pigeons walk around on the ground (even though to us it may seem random) then I believe anything is possible.

nothing is impossible, its just how hard it will be to get there.

mathematically improbable.

yet again i have been confused by bigger, older people *crys*

lol...basically..i dun think there is such a thing as luck but i will admit sometimes things happen that seem weird.

even if luck isnt real its a nice thing to believe

depends..coz u could just frustrate urself daily thinking uve done something to get bad luck. coz when u set urself on a specific mindset..in this case a negative one..then, things will happen not coz of bad luck, but because u've been predisposing urself all day for them to happen

hmm i wouldnt go that far.

its still a possibility.

if your annoyed (like i was this morning) bad things tend to happen to me... also if you are happy for to long bad things happen to you...well they have in my experiences. its like when people say why does it always happen to the good guy... what that really means is that the persons 'luck' has run out. I think we use luck as a term which masks its real meaning and creates a mystical/voodoo/gypsy etc feel to it.

EDIT: Sometimes there isn't luck, did you know that if someone is asked a yes or no question and they don't have a clue which to say (yes or no) they are more likely to randomly say yes than they are to say no.

hmmm...no i didnt know

Well.. maybe a little off topic but just thought I'd say... assuming the universe is infinite (there isn't really a way it that it could be Finite) .. everything that is possible automatically becomes real..

infinite number of possibilities, very likely outcomes. Some can be narrowed down to finite however since we know them not to be possible in our realm. its like a controled physics experiment. Such is with luck.

gofikphoenix: When I don't hear someone after asking "what?" maybe two times and am then timid to ask yet another time, I'll say "yes" more often than "no". I've always thought the reason for this as being related to, if you reply with a "yes" it's more believable if you come back in with a "no" and then that person will question you allowing you to fully understand what they're talking about. Also, in my experience it seems people generally ask more questions requiring a "yes" answer than a "no". Also, "yes" is more positive and the person is more likely to believe you wanting to accept the optimism of your answer.

I think the "luck" that most of us think of is just the general good feeling or bad (in the case of "bad luck") when things that could go either way have just tended to go in a favorable or disfavorable direction. All the situations or outcomes could be completely opposite but just happen to go our way, not because we have a 4 leaf clover or a rabbit's foot or any little trinket or were pooped on by a unicorn anyway. "I'm lucky" in that sense just means you beat the odds and got a good outcome from the given set of outcomes affecting your mood, life, whatever around that time. Some people do have more "luck" in that they have good things happen a lot or have a generally good life and dont have to deal with a lot of crap like other people can. Just beating the odds and circumstances not some magical force.

I can't disagree with your argument in any way, Troa34. Very articulate.
In the same sense, the Kennedy's have TERRIBLE "luck". Call it whatever you want. The word "luck" is included in my vocabulary, although it doesn't come up very often, it's in there, although I don't use it in the superstitious sense. Just a word which follows troa's description.

HEY! What are you suggesting?

I agree with Troa, and Vampyric...and PHP. Thanks fluky, you got a cool name