Has anyone seen this? and if so what did you think, I will probably see it this
saturday
I heard that some jewish people were angry about this calling it anti- forget the word (anti jewish), I find it interesting, for the ones that ordered his crucifiction were jews, but not all... And if they are outraged by this why should they care if they don't believe that jesus has came yet
Full Version: The passion of the christ
What I don't understand is that religious people are actually showing this to their audience and Mel Gibson is profitting off a movie about the crucifixion, this isn't what Jesus is about. Mel Gibson's actually religious, I would have never guessed, he doesn't look it, but this seems to be the case with many people. What oddity. Isn't the cross, the tool used to crucify Jesus kind of a terrible symbol for a religion honoring his cause? Isn't that sort of like Jackie Kennedy wearing a small gun on her waistcoat to show remembrance of the former president who's life ended in tragedy? I just don't get it... this is a gory movie, why would religious people of all people want to see it? Whatever... just too weird. Oh it must have something to do with the whole dying for our sins thing but I still say it's a little peculiar.
Needless to say, I'm not going to see it. Have fun watching Jesus be crucified, it's beyond me.
Needless to say, I'm not going to see it. Have fun watching Jesus be crucified, it's beyond me.
I'm not going to see it either.. as I am not christian at all... and well.. it sounds liek a stupid movie.... just like PHP said.. Have fun watching jesus be crucified.
It's gory because thats the only way people will be affected by it.
hahahahaha, yeah the jakie kenedy wearing a small gun hahahaha, but I do see what you mean. to me the cross itself is not symbolic, it's the sacrifice
and another thing, it is gory because that's how it was
and another thing, it is gory because that's how it was
I thought its funny beacuse its rated R here in canada.
so you have to be 16+ to see it.
so you have to be 16+ to see it.
Anti-semetic is the word you're looking for.
The movie is two hours of Jesus being spit on and beaten.
The movie is two hours of Jesus being spit on and beaten.
pretty much, it interests me, I believe it is the last 12 hours of life that is portrayed
thank you for the correction
thank you for the correction
Gibson created the movie because he wanted to make a film which accurately portrayed the story. Its Mel Gibson of course its going to be widely publicized and probably bring in a pretty good amount of money. How else are you supposed to get people to see it? The movie (before it was released if it even is yet) has already been shown to many religious leaders to gather their input, he wanted it to be as accurate as possible. Movies about true stories arent meant to be "fun", I dont know anyone that had "fun" watching Roots or Amistad but I think most would agree they were well done and powerful. I more than likely wont go see it mostly because I'm cheap, but I'm sure I'll see it once it hits video like most movies.
I understand why it's gory but (therefore) would still/___ rather not watch it. The Christians all already positive there was a Jesus so why watch a movie about it?
Shouldn't Christ be capitalized considering it's a respect thing. If a mod doesn't change this asap it's entirely possible hrad will be condemned to the depths of hell for all eternity... HURRY, hrad's afterlife is in immense danger!
Shouldn't Christ be capitalized considering it's a respect thing. If a mod doesn't change this asap it's entirely possible hrad will be condemned to the depths of hell for all eternity... HURRY, hrad's afterlife is in immense danger!
| QUOTE (Troa34 @ Feb 26 2004, 10:31 PM) |
| Gibson created the movie because he wanted to make a film which accurately portrayed the story. Its Mel Gibson of course its going to be widely publicized and probably bring in a pretty good amount of money. How else are you supposed to get people to see it? The movie (before it was released if it even is yet) has already been shown to many religious leaders to gather their input, he wanted it to be as accurate as possible. Movies about true stories arent meant to be "fun", I dont know anyone that had "fun" watching Roots or Amistad but I think most would agree they were well done and powerful. I more than likely wont go see it mostly because I'm cheap, but I'm sure I'll see it once it hits video like most movies. |
I have to follow up on this coz I agree with what Troa is saying. It feels to me a lot of you are placing a lot of opinions against this simply out of ignorance. PHp, if u would like to discuss christianity in depth a little more with me, ur more than welcome to seince u seem to hit off rather badly on some points. Sometimes ppl need a graphical display to understand things better, like Bb said.
The cross was where Jesus died. In dying, he redeemed us from our sins (that is Christian belief)...therefore the cross is the sign of salvation. Now does it make a little more sense if u follow the Christian doctrine to define why it is used as a symbol. Death brought life, penitence brought forgiveness. That is the whole point to Jesus, and that is why he brings a new covenant from the one established earlier by many other prophets.
Okay, enough explanations. I am in no way forcing you to believe this, but rather showing you how it can be understood. I am not asking u to like my religion, but at least that u respect it and frankly I see many of u are being rather sarcastic and mocking of it, something I do not appreciate it. If you think u are free to do so, read the Geeknewz rules again, ur not. So please dont let me get on ur case. Either be understanding and accept others' views are just important as urs, or posts and threads like this one wont be able to continue to function.
Mel Gibson made this movie for his father, who is anti-semetic.
| QUOTE (snocked @ Feb 27 2004, 11:32 AM) |
| Mel Gibson made this movie for his father, who is anti-semetic. |
i didnt know that!
Im sure MG will overdo the gore in this movie. I'm definitely not gonna watch this one.
In an interview with the actor who played Jesus, it seems a freak accident happened. HE was actually hit with a whip while on set!
must have really been painful!!
| QUOTE (anakinsolois @ Feb 27 2004, 01:15 AM) |
| Im sure MG will overdo the gore in this movie. I'm definitely not gonna watch this one. |
I'm not sure how someone can overdo the gore of a crusifiction but ok.
I'm definately gonna see it. I'm always interested to learn how different stories have spawned out of the same event.
I'm fully aware of the islamic position on the crucifixion so I'm eager to learn more about the christian, even though I already know more than most "christians" will ever bother to learn
I'm fully aware of the islamic position on the crucifixion so I'm eager to learn more about the christian, even though I already know more than most "christians" will ever bother to learn
I'll be watching it this week as many others will just because i love movies.
Even though i hate gore in movies I'd like to go see it. i don't really have a particular religion, but it interest me to learn others points of views.
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| Shouldn't Christ be capitalized considering it's a respect thing. If a mod doesn't change this asap it's entirely possible hrad will be condemned to the depths of hell for all eternity... HURRY, hrad's afterlife is in immense danger! |
I'm mocking the fact that Christ, God, and He have to be capitilized just under terms of endearment and respect. Considering hrad has no power to change the thread's title I think it's rather outrageous... is it really that big of a deal, what if you forget to do so? I'm not being condescending toward any religion, I'm just stating how it is and how they seem to feel about these matters and how I find it rather peculiar. I know why the cross is their symbol and I am capable of understanding this but I still find it odd in a way... that's just me.
u got it all wrong...the movie is not at all anti-semetic. thats just the way the jews want to have it portrayed, if u really watch the movie ull notice what wears down jesus are the sins of men that he has to carry to his death in order to save us. The jews were just there at the wrong time and place, but I dun think the movie itself is aimed to be hateful against jews.
Think again. Mel Gibson and his father are part of an elite group of Christians that think 99% of us are going to hell. They also don't believe the holocaust happened and say the Jews are pencil pushers. They claim Jews just want to make money off Holocaust museums. I had the pleasure of hearing an interview of his father. Their brand of Christianity is hardcore and extreme.
hes a catholic. Ive read many reviews and saw clips of the movie. U are mistaken, be more open minded
You tell snocked to be more open-minded... you could say the same for yourself, Deftone.
please stop making attacks on a personal front, and if you do, at least provide evidence for it 
My evidence is...
Who knows what Mel Gibson's dad and Gibson himself is... a christian or a catholic. Snocked listened to an interview of his father which most likely contains, I'd say, more substantial and damaging evidence than "many reviews and saw clips of the movie". Does "the passion of the christ" clips and reviews provide evidence into Gibson's dad's religion?
Although when Deftone says, "hes a catholic", I'm not quite sure who he's referencing, his father or him. Although, I'd say, if his father is this outrageous he would be too.
What's this all about?
Who knows what Mel Gibson's dad and Gibson himself is... a christian or a catholic. Snocked listened to an interview of his father which most likely contains, I'd say, more substantial and damaging evidence than "many reviews and saw clips of the movie". Does "the passion of the christ" clips and reviews provide evidence into Gibson's dad's religion?
Although when Deftone says, "hes a catholic", I'm not quite sure who he's referencing, his father or him. Although, I'd say, if his father is this outrageous he would be too.What's this all about?
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| They also don't believe the holocaust happened and say the Jews are pencil pushers. They claim Jews just want to make money off Holocaust museums. |
True or not? I don't know why he'd lie about something like this publicly.
im being open minded. I havent closed myself to a rude "fact" that all religious ppl are fanatics and that I should insult them anytime i feel like it. I say watch the movie, Judge it later based on what u saw, not what ppl say.
A certain critic compared "passion of the christ" to a fetish.
LOL. Thing is PHP..in a lot of things of this world, including movies, truth is relative, subjective if u will. What one person finds to be true will not be the same for someone else. That is why a lot of controversy stirs up ... i bet u can find as many ppl that have arguments for this movie as u can find ppl with arguments against.
Oh I know that... it's called 'opinion'.
personally i just think the jews are playing martyrs...im tired of it, they should stop whining about how they have it all bad. Enough is enough, they've been plagued through the times, but i think its quite overdone by now.
Mel Gibson's father directly said those things. The things said are anti-semetic. He also said the Auschwitz crematory does not exist and that the Jews that supposedly died there actually went to LA, NY and Australia. lol
That's stupendously stupid haha.
thing is....his father might have stated that, but Mel Gibson isn't like his father in every aspect. Read up more on other critics on the movie. If u are going to read only the negative opinions obviously u are going to get a negative perspective, me and PHP already discussed this above. "Opinion".
On the hollocaust issue, we obviously know it happened. I went to this museum where they even had tapes of the jews being carried away (corpses) and thrown into big piles etc..filmed by the nazi's themselves. But there are some theories and speculations as to the truths of certain concentration camps that were blown out of proportions.
On the hollocaust issue, we obviously know it happened. I went to this museum where they even had tapes of the jews being carried away (corpses) and thrown into big piles etc..filmed by the nazi's themselves. But there are some theories and speculations as to the truths of certain concentration camps that were blown out of proportions.
I haven't seen the movie and won't comment on whether or not it is anti-semetic. I will see it soon though 
there is a lot of controversy surrounding the holocausts.
I heard of a prof. who did his P.h.d thesis on the holocausts and how they were blown out of proportion, he was deported from the country and the Govt officially apologised to Jews and cancelled his degree... I'll let you be the judge.
I don't think the Jews should just "get over it", but I do tend to lean towards his perspective.
there is a lot of controversy surrounding the holocausts.
I heard of a prof. who did his P.h.d thesis on the holocausts and how they were blown out of proportion, he was deported from the country and the Govt officially apologised to Jews and cancelled his degree... I'll let you be the judge.
I don't think the Jews should just "get over it", but I do tend to lean towards his perspective.
| QUOTE (Deftone @ Feb 29 2004, 04:05 PM) |
| thing is....his father might have stated that, but Mel Gibson isn't like his father in every aspect. Read up more on other critics on the movie. If u are going to read only the negative opinions obviously u are going to get a negative perspective, me and PHP already discussed this above. "Opinion". |
His father also said that his son is part of this little elite group. He made sure he raised him the same and Mel's kids are being taught the same. He said this.
his dad can speak for himself..but until mel states it himself its not true.
hmmm i think thats a movie my bf wants to see :/ i hope its good!!
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| Wendell, an atheist, said, “If God really existed, He would have struck me down for dressing as the devil.” |
What an idiot.... if thats his reasoning, then there should be plenty of dead kids on halloween as well. Idiot...
lol yeah...but it was funny what he did though..i can just picture all the christian grps and their faces staring at the kid. lol
not yet shown in my place...but, im eagerly watch this movie...
As I've already stated... one word, fetish.
@Troa34: That is rather absurd reasoning.
@Troa34: That is rather absurd reasoning.
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| Once inside the movie, Christians began pelting Wendell with Gummy Bears, Ju-Ju Bees, and popcorn. Management got involved after a 75-year-old woman, Hazel Meyer, poured a 64-ounce Coca-Cola on Wendell. |
I couldn't stop laughing when I came to this part hahaha.
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| He also wanted to prove ?that Christians aren?t as forgiving as they portray?. |
In accordance.
obviously the ppl throwing stuff at him are the example of bad christians.
He was mocking the beliefs christians hold very close to them in their hearts in a theatre where christians where celebrating those beliefs...
I don't think it's terribly surprising this happened, he was obviously a jackass looking for trouble and he got it.
I don't think it's terribly surprising this happened, he was obviously a jackass looking for trouble and he got it.
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| Wendell said he likes doing things to get a reaction. |
how gracious of him, sick sadist clown.
i dont judge him for what he did. Had they been good christians, they wouldve tolerated his stupid behavior and just behaved like they ought to, like christians. They didnt, so, he made his point.
He obviously slipped the suit on after he got the ticket... "Hello, one ticket to "passion of the christ"."
hehe
yeah...
yeah...
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