.::PHPfanatic::.
Mar 22 2004, 09:57 PM
| QUOTE (anakinsolois @ Mar 22 2004, 01:37 AM) |
| im looking at this one - Bit defender, i wonder how good it is... |
I downloaded BitDefender awhile ago and was talking to actz about it. He said it really eats up your resources. It's also quite large of a file.
AVG
Fixedamage
Mar 22 2004, 10:19 PM
I use Symantec Antivirus CE...I love it......It uses hardly any resources and I've never had a virus.
覧Vampyric覧
Mar 22 2004, 11:01 PM
I've never heard of that one.. I thought Symantec only made Norton..
Fixedamage
Mar 22 2004, 11:05 PM
Its from Symantec's Enterprise Solution line...its for Desktops/Servers...
You can read more
here
SuranWrap
Mar 22 2004, 11:53 PM
you dont need a client/server for that software Jason?
Fixedamage
Mar 23 2004, 12:37 AM
Nope...runs directly on windows...you can set it up to manage it from a network...but you don't have to run it on a client/server
覧Vampyric覧
Mar 23 2004, 02:55 AM
hmm.. so does it catch more than AVG ya think?
anakinsolois
Mar 23 2004, 03:32 AM
they catch almost all, theyre both good. th real question here is which uses less sytem resources
覧Vampyric覧
Mar 23 2004, 08:20 PM
AVG doesn't use many resources.. as for that Norton one... well, Norton is famous for resource hogging
yaggy
Mar 23 2004, 09:35 PM
One of the most important thing with antivirus are the frequency of updates.
Avast, even though its free, updates at least once per day, i've seen it update 3 times in on day.
This alone is why i use Avast instead of less frequently updating AV's such as AVG
Nothing from Norton get installed here.
Fixedamage
Mar 23 2004, 09:40 PM
With "real time protection" enabled, Symantec Antivirus CE uses about 2,590K of mem.
覧Vampyric覧
Mar 23 2004, 10:52 PM
ahh.. not much resources at all.. pretty damn good
TrickFinlay2
Mar 23 2004, 11:56 PM
i had been using Panda antivirus for sometime,then today i decided to download Avast. What do you know? i had 12 infected files,it had found them within seconds of starting up then it was safely able to delete them. I think i have found my new favorite anti virus program
覧Vampyric覧
Mar 24 2004, 12:14 AM
hm.. kay .. I guess I should get that.. I'll try it out..
.::PHPfanatic::.
Mar 24 2004, 01:17 AM
I've installed it before but never experimented around with it.
I very much like the way it updates, based upon your description.
With AVG you have to schedule a time. I'm assuming with Avast! you set a update frequency (ie: 6 hour)..?
yaggy
Mar 24 2004, 06:28 PM
Avast updates on a set frequecy, i dont know what it is though.
It also checks for an update evey time you log on to the internet (if you have autoupdates enabled)
It also uses (if you want) something called Push updates.
<from the Avast site>
utomatic Updates
Automatic updates are another key point in virus protection, both the virus database and the program itself can be updated automatically. The updates are incremental, and only new data is downloaded, thus reducing the transfer time. The typical size of a virus database update is approximately of 20-80kb, the program update usually has approximately 200-500kb.
If your Internet connection is persistent, the updates are performed completely automatically in fixed time intervals. If you connect to the Internet only occasionally, avast! watches your connection and tries to perform the update when you are online.
Push Updates
A special feature of the Server/Profesional Edition is PUSH updates. It is a dramatic change in the philosophy of updates, usually every installed program checks periodically and when a new version is available downloads it. PUSH updates however are initialized by our servers; they result in your computer quickly responding and performing the necessary update. The system is based on the SMTP protocol. The updates themselves are controlled by the avast! resident e-mail providers (MS Outlook and Internet Mail).
The whole system is protected by asymmetric ciphers and is resistant to unauthorized misuse.
覧Vampyric覧
Mar 24 2004, 08:49 PM
Thanks for the info yaggy..
.::PHPfanatic::.
Mar 24 2004, 09:45 PM
Yes, thanks yaggy... I think I'm going to switch over to Avast!. I liked it very much when it was installed for a few hours maybe a month ago.
anakinsolois
Mar 25 2004, 03:27 AM
im switchn to avast too. EZ anti virus is crap.
Rezza
Mar 25 2004, 05:11 AM
maybe I should try it, EZ does suck
anakinsolois
Mar 25 2004, 06:03 AM
hmm, avast is crap too. i think ill follow jasons advice and get NAV CE.
yaggy
Mar 25 2004, 02:30 PM
| QUOTE (anakinsolois @ Mar 25 2004, 06:03 AM) |
| hmm, avast is crap too. i think ill follow jasons advice and get NAV CE. |
In what way ? Or is that just an opinion.
Please elaborate.
It is an easy program to use, is there something about it that you don't understand ?
anakinsolois
Mar 25 2004, 02:49 PM
no, if i was looking for performance, NAV 2004 would suit me fine. The problem is system resources. i want an anti-virus to occupy as little system resources as possible and be effective. but this is just an opinion.
覧Vampyric覧
Mar 25 2004, 08:06 PM
I installed Avast! last night.. I don't have any viruses but.. It's pretty fast and I like the interfaces / skins.. I don't think it was taking up many system resources either
yaggy
Mar 25 2004, 10:22 PM
Avast is one of the better AV's in regards to system resources and performance.
We all know Norton has to be the most bloated as far as resources go.
I still think update frequency is one of the most important aspects of an Antivirus and thats one of the main reasons i use Avast.
I'm not taking about how often your client checks for an update but how often the company actually releases them, Avast clearly wins in this regard.
I guess the bottom line is to use whatever product you feel comfortable with
Fixedamage
Mar 26 2004, 01:13 AM
Well..if your looking for a light weight product....Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition is the way to go. It's the lightest one I have ever ran across. It has caught every virus I've ever had on my computer with it's Real Time Protection before it was able to infect anything. Its update frequency is the same as NAV as far as I know. Its rare if you don't get an update every 1 or 2 days. I know this... I'll never use anything else.
Ok...enough advertising for Symantec...if they want more, they'll have to pay
Troa34
Mar 26 2004, 01:27 AM
I've tried syman corp edition before as well, I gotta agree with Jason's plug, its quite light and hopefully effective, you can never REEALLY tell unless you check with every AV, otheriwse you dont know if you miss something, but yes its quite good and quick and light.
覧Vampyric覧
Mar 26 2004, 01:38 AM
Avast! also has real - time protection..
yaggy
Mar 26 2004, 01:53 AM
Lets not forget the price

Avast is Free with Free Updates and does everything just as well as the "pay" products, and even better in some cases.
Its one thing to pay for a product but to then have to pay for yearly updates ? No thanks.
.::PHPfanatic::.
Mar 26 2004, 01:55 AM
I have to say I'm not very pleased with Avast! due to it being such a resource hog and having skins when I ACTUALLY don't want one. The "cosmetics" is what bothers me more than anything else. The functionality is good but there are some annoying things when it comes to this as well that I'm not willing to take time to try to find out how to disable when I can reinstall AVG again. I'm going to try Symantec Antivirus CE though.
Rezza
Mar 26 2004, 05:45 AM
Avast is probably the best one I've ever come across, thanks yaggy.
at first it seemed like a little bit too much but after I restarted, it was EXACTLY what I wanted.
Free product, small size, excellent monitoring, screensaver virus check and Virus recovery database and excellent in resource management.
It seems to go down in it's use of sys resources everytime I start up a game, etc... down to something like 600kb!
I love it!
yaggy
Mar 26 2004, 03:05 PM
Avast is still relativly new and in time will be tweaked to perfection i'm sure.
They have a pretty good support fourm in which people get their questions answered rather quickly.
No, i don't work nor have anything to do with Avast, just when i see a product that is as good as Avast and free, i like to tout it.
I've benn using it for about 3 months now without so much as a hickup.
Anyway , Take Care guys
.::PHPfanatic::.
Mar 26 2004, 11:18 PM
I decided to install BitDefender last night. It's a can prove to be a bit of a resource hog, especially with all the services running at once.
Right now it's fairly low though...
bdss.exe ... 4,456 K
bdnagent.exe ... 596 K
bdmcon.exe ... 1,468 K
One of the reasons I'm using, although not a very good one, is for the interface. Avast! was a huge resource hog on my computer so I uninstalled it last night and was going to install AVG but just couldn't help trying something else new and since the exe was already on my system I installed it. It gives you a free 1 yr use... I'm not sure what happens after that time, either you request another serial or it expires.
The only reason I never installed it was because actz said it was a huge resource monger but it's not that bad. I may still install AVG again though.
anakinsolois
Mar 27 2004, 03:52 AM
i just got Symantec CE. its pretty low on resources and i kinda like it. i think ill stick with it.
xfsunolesphp
Mar 30 2004, 10:05 PM
i use Norton 2003. Mcafee ddin't catch lots of virus.
.::PHPfanatic::.
Mar 30 2004, 10:19 PM
Mcafee is also a resource hog, just like Norton tends to be.
anakinsolois
Mar 31 2004, 05:02 AM
Symantec CE rocks. my start up time is down 10 seconds fter romving Norton 2004
覧Vampyric覧
Apr 3 2004, 11:40 PM
I'm glad you got rid of Norton Anakin!
Rezza
Apr 4 2004, 12:48 AM
oh my god, I changed my mind about Avast!, it screwed up my PC worse than anything I had ever come across before in my life
覧Vampyric覧
Apr 4 2004, 01:14 AM
My pc has screwed up lately too, this isn't my pc lol, and I installed Avast not too long before that.. but I still dont really think it was Avast! .. its a VMM32.VXD error on start up..
覧Vampyric覧
Apr 4 2004, 02:46 AM
Once again BB, didnt you mean Norton AV 2004? ( its the worst )
bangbang023
Apr 4 2004, 02:54 AM
what? you're going back that far?! Geez but yes, 2004 versions of mcafee and norton are terrible.
yaggy
Apr 4 2004, 04:17 AM
| QUOTE (Rezza @ Apr 4 2004, 12:48 AM) |
| oh my god, I changed my mind about Avast!, it screwed up my PC worse than anything I had ever come across before in my life |
Ok i'll bite,
How exactly did Avast screw up your computer ?
I have yet to see Avast screw up any machine.
Things like this are usually the "error" behind the keyboard.
Anyway, please tell us how it screwed up your system.
yaggy
Apr 4 2004, 04:23 AM
| QUOTE (覧Vampyric覧 @ Apr 4 2004, 01:14 AM) |
| My pc has screwed up lately too, this isn't my pc lol, and I installed Avast not too long before that.. but I still dont really think it was Avast! .. its a VMM32.VXD error on start up.. |
Have a look at the link below for info on VMM32.VXD and how to fix it. (nothing to do with Avast btw)
http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/vmm32.html
TrickFinlay2
Apr 4 2004, 05:00 AM
ive been using avast! for the last couple of weeks and it has worked flawlessly,i think its much better than norton,no VMM32.VXD errors either
anakinsolois
Apr 4 2004, 05:57 PM
im usin Symantec Corporate Edition now, and it dosnt have NAV 2004's bloated interface. Its VERY low on sys resources and updates have the same frequency as NAV.
覧Vampyric覧
Apr 4 2004, 07:53 PM
| QUOTE (yaggy @ Apr 4 2004, 04:17 AM) |
| QUOTE (Rezza @ Apr 4 2004, 12:48 AM) | | oh my god, I changed my mind about Avast!, it screwed up my PC worse than anything I had ever come across before in my life |
Ok i'll bite,
How exactly did Avast screw up your computer ?
I have yet to see Avast screw up any machine.
Things like this are usually the "error" behind the keyboard.
Anyway, please tell us how it screwed up your system.
|
Thanks Yaggy but, I already knew that and went to MS support site.. said to reinstall windows ... and I have the boot diskette.. My mom at home fixed it this weekend while I'm at my Dad's.
Rezza
Apr 5 2004, 04:15 AM
| QUOTE |
Ok i'll bite,
How exactly did Avast screw up your computer ?
I have yet to see Avast screw up any machine.
Things like this are usually the "error" behind the keyboard.
Anyway, please tell us how it screwed up your system. |
It wasn't really a bait for you to bite, but I had 2 threads on the problems avast! caused me. Don't get me wrong, it would've been absolutely brilliant if there weren't so many compatibility problems.
first, it's Script blocker or whatever made IE unsusable, and consequently many IE dependant programs became unusable as a result (Encarta Dictionary). Then gpedit.msc and services.msc started to report the exact same problems as IE, a generic script error with absolutely no details whatsoever.
After I disabled the script blocker, I no longer received those errors but my problems were long before ending. I could no longer have 2 simultaneous windows of IE open and I couldn't open any new links, Encarta had started disfunctioning utterly (a 4GB program) and so much more I can't be bother
even after uninstalling the entire bloody program my problems didn't go away completely, until I decided to do repair install, which caused further problems but Avast! was not the cause of them so I won't bore you with that.
If you had bothered to read those other threads you would know that I'm not just flaming you or the makers for no reason.
yaggy
Apr 6 2004, 02:34 PM
The only reason i asked you why you thought Avast had caused your problems is that you are one of the only people i have seen that have had a problem with Avast.
Anyone that has had a problem, turned out not to be avast but with something else al together as IMO is the problem you had.
Nonetheless, No one is forcing you to use it and since i have no affiliation with them, it no sweat of my gnads.
What, if i may ask are you using as an AV now?
My setup, which runs great and has not had even the slightest problem is;
OS - XP Sp1
Browser - Firefox
AV - Avast
Firewall - Sygate
Email - Thunderbird
Take Care
yaggy
ChildOL
Apr 6 2004, 04:41 PM
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