.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 9 2004, 08:56 PM
This isn't geek humor persay but is something I'm sure everyone here can relate to...
This is more of my opinion.
There are many types of sociality; anti-social where you atempt to annoy someone when there's no real need, you may tend to be grumpy often. Unsocial is less severe but I see it as being reluctant to speak about a certain subject. I'm the latter; I try to respect other peoples' opinions no matter how much I disagree (I may mutter an insult under my breath). It's very difficult for me to say something that is overwhelming my mind to someone at school that I know very little but if I focus on what it is I want to say I usually can. This thread was formed because of the fact that I was trying to convince myself at school today to recommend GN to someone that I sometimes talk to but it never happened. I planned out what I was going to say and it was something along the lines of "I'm going to recommend a forum/site that I religiously participate at, it's Geeknews with a 'z'. Geeknewz was hacked and the db went down a few months ago and it would be nice if I could spread this by "word of mouth". You seem like the perfect subject." (he's very interested in computers and it would be great if he signed up)
Anyway...
Based on my description of the two forms of social what do you consider yourself?
Deftone
Jan 10 2004, 01:58 AM
I think what u are refering to as unsocial is more like being an Introvertive person, where u tend to keep to urself, reserved if u will in judgement. Anti social is mroe like refusing to socialize with people out of the spite of it, or simply because u feel u dun fit in , in big social occasions and what not
I tend to always speak my mind, shy or not. I gain confidence with someone quickly...and I always say what i think regardless of what the other ppl think. Coz im RIGHT! lol
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 10 2004, 02:19 AM
Supposedly there are different types of geeks, some being social and others not. You're right in what I'm saying as being introvertive.
My family has been talking about many philosophical issues today and this has been one. This also has to do with your emotional IQ. It's a complicated subject to try to understand and reason out but basically the higher your EQ the more you are able to cope with things which would go along with keeping to yourself, especially when it comes to emotional related subjects. The lower your EQ the opposite obviously.
bangbang023
Jan 10 2004, 02:33 AM
| QUOTE |
| This isn't geek humor persay but is something I'm sure everyone here can relate to... |
moved to chit chat
MaD
Jan 10 2004, 03:45 AM
maybe we secretly despise the people because they are dumb
thats my main reason for not making friends..they are stupid
people usually talk to me for common intrests like
skating, rap, tv and computers
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 10 2004, 03:56 AM
If people talk to you about rap and skating that hints to me that you yourself like these two things so what does this say about you if you call them stupid? I'm not trying to be rude but I'm just correcting your reasoning.
newtype
Jan 10 2004, 04:12 AM
interesting subject and something im going through right now see i have a hard time making freinds because i think i have a high standard to what a friend should be when i make friends i usually have one best friend and then people i know but my one best friend is like a relationship in terms of that person is there for me like a girlfriend would be they know hey man he is tight on cash i shuold give him gas money your too drunk to drive etc a true blue friend im separating from a 2 year relationship with someone i spent all my time with therefore i dont have really any friends anymore but making new friends is hard because im scared of being rejected and at the same time scared ill come off too strong and scare someone away
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 10 2004, 04:18 AM
It's a similar case with me, newtype (btw. welcome to Geeknewz and I hope you stick around), I've lost my two best friends as a result of moving (I don't think anyone could dislike them). Now it's really hard to find a new friend because I'm always afraid of committing to this and I feel as if I've lost two incredibly easygoing, nice people...unbeatable. I care about having someone to talk to but don't care at all at the same time. They could sympathize with me, being introverted as were they, and therefore it made it really easy to talk to them.
Feel free to introduce yourself
here.
LordKwiKSilva00
Jan 10 2004, 06:16 AM
my opinion on anti social is someone who keeps to themselves and only speaks with the few people that he/she can relate to(kinda like me)...more or less people that could be considered unpopular by others because of appearences/attitudes/likes/dislikes, etc...
bangbang023
Jan 10 2004, 06:39 AM
I am a very tough judge of character. I tend to not talk to people who do things I wouldn't do (eg drugs, not somethign miniscule). Living here in Brooklyn, you get alot of that at times. I wish I could say all I need is myself, but I need "her" (reason why I took a break from the site).
GTX5_Crusader
Jan 10 2004, 09:04 AM
I am very talkative to many people and get along with most, but at times I can be UNsocial. Sometimes I'd rather keep to myself and not partake in anything, even if I did before.
LordKwiKSilva00
Jan 10 2004, 09:19 AM
| QUOTE |
| I am very talkative to many people and get along with most, but at times I can be UNsocial. Sometimes I'd rather keep to myself and not partake in anything, even if I did before. |
i believe everyone gets like that sometimes, for a lot of ppl it is more than others...i am like that a lot...gets to be one of those days where you dont want to do anything, be around anyone or say anything to anyone at all(call them what you will, gray days, depression, bad day, it all means the same)
as i said, i myself go through alot of these days, of course i am kinda suffering through depression...[offtopic]not as bad as i used to, but still all the same[offtopic]
Troa34
Jan 10 2004, 10:57 AM
The easiest way to portray the way I am is theres only about 5 people that I would leave my bed/computer/home for. In public alone I doubt I've ever started a conversation with anyone, with them I can pretty much talk to anyone. All depends on the situation. I dont talk to people usually because I have nothing to say, I'm like that even with my friends though. I dont feel it necessary to say "how 'bout those Mets?" or "that weather today... its a stinger" and all those other taxicab converation starters. I rather agree with BB on the not interacting with people who do things that I'm not into such as drugs, especially when you're really not interested in getting involved.
Deftone
Jan 10 2004, 07:18 PM
there is a book on what u were talking about PHP. Its called "Emotional Intelligence". It explains how we have two basics to our intelligece, the physical and the emotional. So u could have a very high IQ and be smart but never achieve happiness coz u cant solve ur inner turmoil
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 10 2004, 07:54 PM
I'll have to check that out maybe Deftone.
I agree with you also, bb, but the problem is that I like certain things that are very difficult to find in other people (ie: hate sports, like classical music, not religious (easier in MI than TX), etc). If you fit into the common interests then it wouldn't be as hard but for geeks, being eccentric, this isn't the case.
Rezza
Jan 10 2004, 08:31 PM
I can talk in big crowds, it's harder for me to talk to 10 people than it is to talk to 100...
I also stand up for what I believe in, even to a complete stranger , unless I believe that other person's opinion isn't worth my time (doesn't happen a lot), in which case I just choose to remain silent and laugh at their stupidity from the inside...
you know what bites, when I stand up for my beliefs with all arrogance, only to find the other person is much more qualified than me and I come crashing down headfirst, I only feel more stupid when I review the conversation later in bed when I'm trying to go to sleep.
I think I'm finally learning sometimes silence is the best answer and that you've got 1 mouth and 2 ears for a reason.
Deftone
Jan 10 2004, 09:48 PM
I dont think even if you can prove that im wrong that i will let u off the hook or that it will ever sound like you have won.
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 10 2004, 11:52 PM
You both sound exactly like my brother. I may think things over in my head many times if it's someone I know very little but it's a different case when it's someone in my family that's pretty easygoing; it's much easier to argue until my heart is content then.
Deftone
Jan 11 2004, 05:02 PM
obviously its easier for me to just argue my head off with family members. There is that "trust" that allows for that to happen. But otherwise, i still argue ehehe
Inkman
Jan 12 2004, 01:53 AM
OK. First off. I am an introvert. I am an INFJ (Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging) which is Introverted Intuition with Extraverted Feeling. I am a very quit person. I rarely let people get close to me, let people know me. Those that do find me to be an incredible friend that is has higher morals than most people. Pretty much, if I dont know you I dont have much to say to you and I keep to myself.
I have been learning alot or psychology lately. Actually I was thinking about going back to college after Im done with my current 2 years to earn a masters or bachlers degree in psychology (and english literature). I love it. This is an area, besides computers, that im totally into.
The term INJF is one of sixteen personality types. The sixteen personality types are based on the well-known research of the psychologist Carl Jung, Katharine C. Briggs, and Isabel Briggs Myers. Carl Jung first developed the theory that individuals each had a psychological type. There are other psychologists that have caterorized personality types based on there own believes, but there normally caterorized in 5-7 types, which all really spring off the original 16 anyway. I believe whole heartily in Carl Jungs research. I believe his 16 types go far more indepth than any others.
The full, real "Myers-Briggs Type Indicator" test costs money. Go
here and take a free and very quick 72 questions version of the test. There all yes or no answers, so they go real quick. Once it gives you your type go
here if you want for a full in-depth description of your type. I can guarantee that you will be amazed. Its as if someone is telling you everything about yourself.
I recommend trying the test. (Definitely you PHP because of your apparent interest in psychology and philosophy, ...though both are two different things.) Personality typing is a tool with many uses. It's especially notable for it's helpfulness in the areas of growth and self-development. Learning and applying the theories of personality type can be a powerful, rewarding, and fun experience, if it is used as a tool for discovery, rather than as a method for putting people into boxes, or as an excuse for behavior.
If anyone here really cares, here is a very watered down quick description of my intoverted type (as there are a few, your either introverted or extroverted).
"Quietly forceful, original, and sensitive. Tend to stick to things until they are done. Extremely intuitive about people, and concerned for their feelings. Well-developed value systems which they strictly adhere to. Well-respected for their perserverence in doing the right thing. Likely to be individualistic, rather than leading or following."
And on a last note (Im sure your all like "Oh shut up already! Arnt you finished yet?" haha). On the topic of emotional intellegence... I know my IQ is 146, but I dont know what my EQ is, although I am very full of deep emotion, more so than others because of my intuitive personality. Anyway I find it interesting that you brought that up because my psychology teacher gave an option based assignment. It was to write a paper on "Can true intellegence be measured by charactor traits." Well ill leave that one up to you folks.
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 12 2004, 02:02 AM
I would really like to take the INFJ test but know how it would turn out, I'd constantly be comparing what I'm doing at that point in time to my test results.
edit: I'm not quite sure whether I ever came out and said psychology interested me but you're right I think, I do find it intriguing. I like to understand how people think and why (although I've never read Freud, etc.). I usually find things interesting but don't read anything about them even though I know I'd enjoy it after I start.
Inkman
Jan 12 2004, 02:10 AM
Its not the "INFJ test" if you read what I wrote. INFJ is a type you CAN get (if that is your type) after you take the "Myers-Briggs Type Indicator" test. And I highly doubt you will compare yourself to anything. It is helpful in the areas of growth and self-development. If anything it just points out what you as a person are like, your charactor. Knowing your type wont change who you are. At least just LOOK at a few questions before you decide not to take it.
Inkman
Jan 12 2004, 02:14 AM
| QUOTE (.::PHPfanatic::. @ Jan 11 2004, 09:02 PM) |
| edit: I'm not quite sure whether I ever came out and said psychology interested me but you're right I think, I do find it intriguing. I like to understand how people think and why. |
Your right. You never did say psychology. I just "felt" that about you, that you probably had interest there. That is me, thats what it means to be intuitive. Anyway back on topic...
LordKwiKSilva00
Jan 12 2004, 02:14 AM
wow ink, never would have taken you for someone interested in psychology
(back on topic, sorta) you mentioned that test to find personality types, why not make a new thread where everyone posts their results(the ones who take that test)???
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 12 2004, 02:14 AM
Yes I read your post but I guess I just didn't say everything perfectly. Excuse me. I do understand it's a personality type, thanks.
edit:
| QUOTE |
(back on topic, sorta) you mentioned that test to find personality types, why not make a new thread where everyone posts their results(the ones who take that test)???
|
I like it. I'm taking it right now... interesting.
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 12 2004, 02:19 AM
I can't answer a lot of these. The correct response for many of them would be "I don't know...". I'm always on my computer.
Like this one:
| QUOTE |
After prolonged socializing you feel you need to get away and be alone
|
If I don't socialize much then how does this apply or how do I answer it..?
LordKwiKSilva00
Jan 12 2004, 02:24 AM
same here, should have my results in a few moments
Edit: i turned out as INTJ, more in depth explanation of it can be found
HERE and also a shortened abridged version can be found on the link provide by Inkman
here is a basic breakdown of INTJ
Your Type is INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
78 11 33 56
Qualitative analysis of your type formula
You are:
-very expressed introvert
-slightly expressed intuitive personality
-moderately expressed thinking personality
-moderately expressed judging personality
Inkman
Jan 12 2004, 02:25 AM
| QUOTE (.::PHPfanatic::. @ Jan 11 2004, 09:14 PM) |
| QUOTE | (back on topic, sorta) you mentioned that test to find personality types, why not make a new thread where everyone posts their results(the ones who take that test)???
|
I like it. I'm taking it right now... interesting.
|
@PHP. I dont know if continuing with this here will make this thread of topic or not. If you want to go ahead and start a new thread like the aforementioned thread and start with your results go ahead. I leave it up to you.
EDIT: I recommend just spliting this thread starting with the last 10 posts or whatnot if you can, cause its all gone to crap now... Im sorry bb.
newtype
Jan 12 2004, 02:26 AM
Hey thanks Inkman for posting the links to that site i am ENFJ so i found out im really not as antisocial as i thought i was
Inkman
Jan 12 2004, 02:28 AM
| QUOTE (.::PHPfanatic::. @ Jan 11 2004, 09:19 PM) |
I can't answer a lot of these. The correct response for many of them would be "I don't know...". I'm always on my computer.
Like this one:
| QUOTE | After prolonged socializing you feel you need to get away and be alone
|
If I don't socialize much then how does this apply or how do I answer it..?
|
Prolonged socalizing. When your at school or work you socalize with other people or are around other people right? If that makes you uncomferable after awhile do you feel the need to go and be alone?
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 12 2004, 02:30 AM
I'm the type of person that dwells on results. I'm not going to take it because many of them don't apply to me and I don't think how social you are is a fixed thing that will persist throughout your entire life. Someone else may start a thread on this if they wish but I probably won't be contibuting to it.
Inkman
Jan 12 2004, 02:37 AM
| QUOTE (.::PHPfanatic::. @ Jan 11 2004, 09:30 PM) |
| I'm the type of person that dwells on results. I'm not going to take it because many of them don't apply to me and I don't think how social you are is a fixed thing that will persist throughout your entire life. |
You raise a great point. One thats been brought up before by many a psycholist. Many case study experiments have shone that yes your personality will change mostly if at all young. I high percentage (based on test results) of people entering adulthood carry their charactor traits for the rest of their life.
Inkman
Jan 12 2004, 02:46 AM
| QUOTE (LordKwiKSilva00 @ Jan 11 2004, 09:24 PM) |
| Edit: i turned out as INTJ, more in depth explanation of it can be found HERE and also a shortened abridged version can be found on the link provide by Inkman |
Actually as I wrote, the second link I gave will give you a full "in depth explanation". You are right, yes it does give you a "shortened abridged". CLick on "Click here for a detailed description" underneath the very short version.
Example for you only LordKwiKSilva00...
Full desciptionat the bottom of that page there is
INTJ Relationships..... The link I profided is better than the one you gave. www.personalitypage.com has more to offer in that area.
Julia's_Phate
Jan 12 2004, 02:57 PM
Well I happen to be a ENFJ...and to those of you who know me i didn't even have to take the test to know. The test insist that i am a leader, though days i don't feel like one, and i enjoy educating people. It also says that i'm abstract (which my room readily reflects) and that i'm at home in complex situations which require the juggling of much data with little pre-planning. the full explination is here...
*JP*
Deftone
Jan 12 2004, 03:37 PM
I dont really need a page to tell me what my personality is like and neither do any of you. You know what you are like. In fact, if you go to a page so it can tell you your personality, it is most likely that you lack a personality yourself. I´m not trying to be mean but stop it with the stupid tests and quizzes. Geez.
Rezza
Jan 12 2004, 03:49 PM
I second that Deftone, I'm agreeing with all your recent posts 100%, congrats...
Deftone
Jan 12 2004, 06:02 PM
haha, thank you.
so now you know how i am in personality. An irritable mofo about to take your head off. But i can be nice to, just not when requested.
Troa34
Jan 12 2004, 06:39 PM
| QUOTE (Deftone @ Jan 12 2004, 10:37 AM) |
| I dont really need a page to tell me what my personality is like and neither do any of you. You know what you are like. In fact, if you go to a page so it can tell you your personality, it is most likely that you lack a personality yourself. I´m not trying to be mean but stop it with the stupid tests and quizzes. Geez. |
I took the quiz to see what it came up with, I know exactly what I'm like, and I was rather suprised how close it was. I dont think anyone is taking it to find out what their like, I agree if you let a test tell you what you're like... hmm. I think most of us are just taking the test to see how accurate it is.
Deftone
Jan 12 2004, 09:00 PM
which is still a matter of how much time you want to waste
Troa34
Jan 12 2004, 09:29 PM
heh the way I see it we're all here, I say we all have quite a bit of time to waste
bangbang023
Jan 12 2004, 10:03 PM
back on topic
grr....012
Jan 13 2004, 10:12 PM
lol deftone knows me kinda i am exactly alike in real life i talk alot to everyone hmm... i think i would fall under umm extremely social
.::PHPfanatic::.
Jan 13 2004, 10:56 PM
I know people like that and they almost always tend to annoy me but you may be an exception, I don't know.
grr....012
Jan 13 2004, 11:04 PM

sad ph and you say you love me
Inkman
Jan 13 2004, 11:15 PM
thread closed
Rezza
Jan 14 2004, 01:24 AM
Thread Closed.... for real
don't give a Rezza's job to an inkman j/k lol
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