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Boogiepop Phantom
ok, I've been searching for the Awards BIOS Beep Codes & all I find are 2 type of codes for them. Just the otherday I decided to dust my computer & do a bit of re-wiring in my tower. After I re-wired & dusted (compressed Air in a can) my computer starts to run POST but then I hear 5 short beeps & the computer shuts off.

Awards BIOS Beep Codes

None really fit my problem. To make things a bit more interesting I have 2 videos I have tried a GeForce 5500 & a GeForce 6800XT. Soon as I boot up with the 5500 card it does the 5 beeps then shuts down. When I try the 6800XT(no power going to the card) it will boot up but nothing shows up on the screen. Again with the 6800XT(with the power to the card) it does the 5 beeps & shuts down.

This is making me thing that my AGP slot on my motherboard when out when I was clearing out the dust & re-wiring. I'm going to try to find another computer to test out the video cards just to rule out the possiblity that the cards when bad. if the AGP did truely go out I'm looking at spending another $100 to get a replacement board. The current motherboard I have is a DFI LanParty PRO875B which I bought like a little over 2 years ago.

Basicly, if any of you have worked with Awards BIOS & have an idea what those 5 beeps are saying, I will be extremely happy.
psYchotic
The best place to look for is the manual that came with your motherboard, because Award BIOS'es come in many variations. If you don't have it, go to the manufacturer's homepage, they probably have a digital version of it somewhere wink.gif
Edit: According to the manual there are two different beep signals:
QUOTE(manual)
There are two kinds of beep codes in the BIOS. One code indicates that a video error has occured and the BIOS cannot initialize the video screen to display any additional information. This beep code consists of a single long beep followed by three short beeps. The other code indicates that a DRAM error has occured. This beep code consists of a single long beep.

That probably doesn't really help you, does it?
serges2
G'day Boogiepop Phantom, interesting and obviously frustrating problem. I had a bit of time on me hands so did some looking around for some possible trouble shooting tips. The Phoenix site (merged with Award a while back) was of little use and the Award site wasn't much better so I bashed around on some other sites just to see if others have run into this code. The best I could figure out was that it seems to be a memory error of some sort, it could be as simple as an ill-seated or bad RAM, worth a check and re-seat them. You said you did some re-wiring, what did you re-wire if I may ask? Sounds like you were careful with the cleaning (comp air good), but just a small thought to carefully check for hidden dust bunnies (or small hairs) in and around your BIOS chip, CPU, and RAM, that may be bridging the pins. DAL Comp. help mentions a continuous loop beep pattern related to bad memory or connections, it is possible that your PC wants to beep more but is shutting down after five beeps? Dunno. So it might be an idea to go over your wiring again as it appears that the POST isn't even completing (check your fan (s) too maybe). Here is a link to various problems related to your board from the DFI forums, maybe something in here to consider>
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/archive/in...p?f-11-p-2.html
It is an odd problem and as you say could very well be the slot. Let us know when you test your cards. I'm sure you've probably already gone over your connections (grounds as well?) since that would be an obvious one but as I said I'd check your Ram first as it almost sounds like a memory thing.
Just my noobie 0.02$ worth for the day smile.gif Let us know how its going eh!
Cheers,
Serge
Boogiepop Phantom
serges2, when I was re-wiring I ment as in grouping wires together so they weren't just a mess of wires.As for memory before I did the cleaning the memory was just fine (all three stick). Also, when I cleaned the computer out I never removed the RAM sticks so they where seated correctly anyways. I just test each one (no other computers in my household use DDR) & all three still give the 5 short high beeps followed by the power cutting off. As for bridging pins I doun't think that is likely since I was using the compressed air for like a time of 10 minutes over the entire process (kinda dust where my computer sits so I am forced to spend a good amount of time to just dusting). As for fans, all fans turn on but the video card fans. Almost seems like something happened to the AGP slot to stop it from suppling power to the slot.

Awards is heavyly based on the video working to display error code. I'm not even getting any video feed. I might try tomarrow to find a computer I can test my AGP cards. Going to be next to impossible to find a computer that supports DDR so I can test the RAM as well (to to make sure it isn't just the Motherboard).

I know when I total took my memory out & booted the system I got a long continuous that never ended.
serges2
Heya, so when you bundled your wiring did you go over all the connections to make sure you didn't loosen anything? If you didn't remove the Ram then leave it, it isn't your problem. But I definately would check the connections to your PSU. Weird for it to do this if you really haven't changed anything. Your right about the Awards bios basically giving video errors messages from what I have learned, so it could well be a slot failure but that is strange too which is why I suggested re-checking your power connections, hey, it only takes one small thing. The other thing is that the card errors are very basic and your beeps don't fit the description. oi. Anyhow, I have neither the expertise or experience to help you much further, if I run into other ideas I'll be sure to post it up for you and I'll be talking to my tech teacher tonight and see if she has any thoughts on this one. Take care and keep us posted, especially if you resolve the issue as it may help others in the future. Good luck and keep on truckin'!
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Oh, I forgot to ask if your board has on-board graphics built in, if it does try using it and see what happens(w/o cards in of course), check your monitor's connections too, just passing thoughts as I keep getting visions of something being moved out of place. nm, I go now. smile.gif
cyberghost
5 beeps maybe you should try a new power supply.
have you try update your bois.

Boogiepop Phantom
as for updating the BIOS is next to impossible. The Motherboard maker doesn't even have the right BIOS up so I can flash. I know there is an update but I'm not willing to spend $40 or something like that from those folks the make the BIOS Dectivie program. I know it's mostly for tech support but hell, I have the BIOS I should get it for free.

As for wirings everything is pluged in right. If I had a spare Power Supply I would have tried it already. I just don't have a lot of spare parts in my house to do every type of test I can think of. As for connection I have everything hooked up & solid connection.

My Motherboard is a DFI LanParty PRO875B. It doesn't have intergraded video so I am total relient on my AGP card.

*Update*

Well, I just tried it with a PCI Video card & it's doing the same thing as the AGP. This is starting to lead me to believe my BIOS Chip went bad.
cyberghost
There is a website for the bios updates for any kind of montherboad yes I do belive that your bios chip went bad on you...

i might be wrong but you can try this website www.winbios.com i'll do some more checking around here..... and in my notbook...


here is the right website try this if this don't work then goto www.google.com and do a search for bios. www.wimsbios.com
let us know what you fine out even if you have to re-flash with the same verison bios that should be fine too as well.


www.wimsbios.com
Boogiepop Phantom
cyberghost, good suggestion but your missed one detail. I don't see any video so I can't pull the info I need to do an update. My computer starts the POST progress & then does 5 short high beeps followed by my system turing off. No video feed durning the entire time.
cyberghost
You can't see any video at all..... Have you check you monitor to see if that is working.




also check to see if those video cards are working do you have another computer that you can check them out on or a friend computer.
you might just have two bad video cards.... you can goto www.pricewatch.com to look for some cheaper video cards if you need one. some are around $20 to $50 bucks..
cyberghost
I also think you should re-check your power cables to make sure they are plug in all the way on the motherboard your drivers and so on.
If that don't work then there could be something wrong with your video cards or your power supply is about to go.... might be time to bowrrow a power supply or get a new power supply.
that 5 beeps could also be bad cache on the motherboard....
each bios don't have the same beeps codes 5 beeps could be a bad video card and the other bios 5 beeps could be a an memorry error.
www.pricewatch.com you can look for a new video card motherboard and any other computer hardware cheaper then buying them at mom and pop computer store.
welcome to the real computer world.


It could also be a 5 Beeps: Processor failure check your cpu chip on the motherboard and see if that is seated in right.
Boogiepop Phantom
*Update*

I just check my 2 video card & memory in my grandparents computer. All of them are fine. Also, I don't think POST would give me beep codes if the monitor was bad.

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I also think you should re-check your power cables to make sure they are plug in all the way on the motherboard your drivers and so on.

ok, then can you explain why everything else turns on & becomes active?

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It could also be a 5 Beeps: Processor failure check your cpu chip on the motherboard and see if that is seated in right.

I haven't move my processor in like 2 years so it's seated correctly. It's a P4 2.8 GHz Prescott with 1 MB L2 with HT. so I know that sucker runs hot.

Most likely Tuesday, I'll try to contact DFI Support to see if they can ship me out a new BIOS chip.
cyberghost
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ok, then can you explain why everything else turns on & becomes active?


the power supply don't take much to cause erros.

take that bios chip cmos out and send it back to the montherboard company and they should be able for around $7.00 to $10.00 bucks and reinstall the bios for ya.....
good luck....
don't forget you came to us for help.
cyberghost
reset CMOS RTC RAM in the jumpers
1) Turn off the PC and unpulg the power cord
2) Remove the onboard battery
3) Move the jumpers cap from pins 1-2 to pins 2-3 and after 10sec. move the cap back to pin 1-2
4) Re-install the battery
5) Plug the power cord and turn on the PC
6) Hold down the key during the boot to re-enter into the cmos/bios and then you well need to re-enter all your bios information back into your bios."
I don't think you try this. see if this works and get back to us right away.
GOOD LUCK!
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cyberghost
There is an apparent failure of the motherboard or a system device on the motherboard

Explanation: There is suspicion of a possible failure related to the motherboard. This can be a result of a specific message strongly implicating the motherboard in some sort of erratic system behavior. It may also be the case that the motherboard probably isn't the problem, but that we want to rule it out as a possible cause. Since the motherboard is where all the other components meet and connect, a bad motherboard can affect virtually any other part of the PC. For this reason the motherboard must often be checked to ensure it is working properly, even if it is unlikely to be the cause of whatever is happening.

Diagnosis: Outright motherboard failure is fairly rare in a new system, and extremely rare in a system that is already up and running. Usually, the problem is that the motherboard has been misconfigured or there is a failure with one or more of the components that connect to it. Getting a system in the mail that has a loose component or disconnected cable is very common. In fact, though, there are a surprisingly large possible causes for what may appear to be a motherboard failure.

Recommendation: Follow the suggestions below to diagnose the possible failure of the motherboard. You will find a lot of possible causes listed below, since there are so many problems that can make it look like the motherboard is at fault. This part of the Troubleshooting Expert is referenced by a large number of other sections. For this reason, you may want to skip some of the steps below if you have already tried them elsewhere. Also, try to avoid the very difficult diagnostic steps--especially replacing the motherboard--until you have exhausted the other possibilities both here and elsewhere on the site:

First of all, if you have just recently installed this motherboard, or performed upgrades or additions to the PC of any sort, read this section, which contains items to check that may cause problems after working on the system unit.
If the PC isn't booting at all, make sure you have at least the minimums in the machine required to make it work: processor, a full bank of memory, video card, and a drive. Make sure that all of these are inserted correctly into the motherboard, especially the memory. Partially inserted memory modules can cause all sorts of bizarre behavior.
Remove all optional devices from the motherboard, including expansion cards, external peripherals, etc. and see if the problem can be resolved.
Double-check all the motherboard jumper settings, carefully. Make sure they are all correct. In particular, check the processor type, bus speed, clock multiplier and voltage jumpers. Also make sure the CMOS clear and flash BIOS jumpers are in their normal, default operating positions.
Reset all BIOS settings to default, conservative values to make sure an overly aggressive BIOS setting isn't causing the problem. Set all cache, memory and hard disk timing as slow as possible. Turn off BIOS shadowing and see if the problem goes away.
Double-check all connections to the motherboard.
Check the inside of the case to see if any components seem to be overheating.
Inspect the motherboard physically. Check to make sure the board itself isn't cracked; if it is look here. Make sure there are no broken pins or components on the board; if there are, you will have problems with whatever component of the PC uses that connection. Check for any socketed components that may be loose in their sockets, and push them gently but firmly back into the socket if this has happened.
Make sure the keyboard is inserted correctly into the motherboard.
A failed cache module or using the wrong type can cause motherboard problems. If you suspect it, troubleshoot the secondary cache.
An overheated processor can cause system problems. Try troubleshooting the processor.
Troubleshoot the system memory. Memory problems are often mistaken for motherboard faults, especially on systems that don't have the protection of using memory error detection.
Try troubleshooting the video card or replacing it with another one, preferably a simple straight VGA card that is known to work from being in another system that functioned properly.
If the power supply is older, or this is a cheap case, or you have added many new drives to a system with a weaker power supply (especially one that is less than 200W) then you may have a power supply problem. You may want to try replacing it.
You may have a BIOS bug or other problem. Check your manufacturer's technical support resources for any known problems with your motherboard. Check on USEnet as well.
Contact the technical support department of your system or motherboard manufacturer for additional troubleshooting information. If this is a new motherboard, you may want to consider returning it for an exchange if you have exhausted all other troubleshooting avenues.
Some newer viruses, when activated, overwrite part of the BIOS code in systems that employ a flash BIOS. If the BIOS is corrupted, the system won't boot. See here for ideas on recovering from this.
Try swapping the motherboard with another one and see if the problem resolves itself. If it does then the original motherboard is probably faulty, but it could just have been misconfigured or installed incorrectly

I had some time so I wrote this for ya I hope this works for you. read about the power supply problem.
and also check your jumpers too you could of blew one off
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serges2
Cyber, good article but please don't claim to have written what you obviously have not, give credit to the source eh, eg. 'I compiled this from pcmag.co' etc. etc., or just post the link. To do otherwise reflects badly on the site in general I think. Its called plagerism or copyright infringement, regardless, it isn't honest.
That said, a corrupt or faulty BIOS chip is very likely since about everything else has been checked. Boogieop says that is the next step and since they are relatively cheap its a good thing to rule out. Cyber's advice on resetting the BIOS seems sound advice and worth a try in my opinion, ya never know and its simple enough to do.

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cyberghost
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'I compiled this from pcmag.co' etc. etc.,

I don't know what you are talking about what is pcmag.co..?
Boogiepop Phantom
I'll do that tomarrow after college & work.

Reset the BIOS & make sure all the jumpers are in place correctly. If I remember my last BIOS problem even that will not clear it. So I have to make sure I have another BIOS chip around to make sure that me current one didn't die total.
cyberghost
checking back to see if you found anything yet?
Boogiepop Phantom
just got home I'll edit this message after I test it out.
Boogiepop Phantom
The results are in...

Turns out something went odd in the BIOS chip. So, cyberghost. I wish to thank you for your input on reseting the BIOS & CMOS chips.
cyberghost
So reseting the bios chip work for ya and did your video work after reseting the bios/coms.
What was so odd in the Bios please give us the information on the bios.
okay I'll send you the bill ....... LOL.....
I'm just not sure what is going here but did you have to get a new bios chip or the old one worked after reseting it.?


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The results are in...

Turns out something went odd in the BIOS chip. So, cyberghost. I wish to thank you for your input on reseting the BIOS & CMOS chips.
Boogiepop Phantom
o.k. & I though I had trouble with reading....

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reseting the BIOS & CMOS chips


Does that solve your question now?
cyberghost
LOL so i'll take it that your video is working lol.........

is AGP card is also working?
What i'm aksing are you using the PCI video card or the AGP video card.
or do both work fine now after reseting the bios...

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Turns out something went odd in the BIOS chip


Just wondering what was so odd in the bios chip
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