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Dren
Machine language ladies and gentlemen. Does anyone here know how to work with assembly language? I just saw them use it once where I'm studying it looked very complicated but once a friend of mine explained it, it seemed workable.So I ask, does anyone here know how to work with the language, I can fair quite well with java, and I know the basics of HTML but I want to know more about other languages. So if anyone knows other languages especially assembly, reply.
M$ Agent #2
Basicaly you need a good high level language fist you cant realy write a whole program in ML hmm well you do sort of lol To wrie ML you need to know Intel X86 op codes if you want to write just basic X86 now if you want to accelerate that latest video ap you need to know the op codes for SSE I used to hand code stuff for Apple 2E's using 6502 and it was pretty cool smile.gif but that was an 8 bit machine that only had a fw hundred functions and didnt demand execution in a certain order hmm or did it I forget its been so long lol anyway ML is awsome for small bits of code but beyond that there is not realy much need computers are so fast these days there is a glut of CPU power for everything but games !

Edit: I think you can developer information on the net but im not sure how much... programs in C++ (well written ones) are almost as fast as hand coded stuff smile.gif a good compiler will turn all your code into ML but its like working with an archetype or avatar lol hmmm also a good compiler will handle memory alocation functions for you... my recomendation to learning more about ML is to learn Hex and also how to count in binary at least to 64 bits also learn C++ as best you can.
Dren
See the language I know is JAVA and my knowledge of it is not quite suffecient I have only done half a university course on it and still need about a year to get the whole of the language. JAVA is a high level language.....erm..i think...I'll only be doing C++ in about a year and I can't wait till then. I have searched for info on the net about it and haven't quite found a site that breaks it down properly. I have researched machine language too with the same result, but I'll find something I hope.lol
Deftone
i guess were both on the same track Dren as i am currently studying JAVA @ my college. The thing about Java is, that it (if i can make up a word for it tongue.gif ) overcomplexes itself hehe. Meaning, what u could do in C++ with 2 words u do with 5 or 6 in Java. The other issue with Java compilation and running is that Java programs tend to suck a lot of RAM and be slower than those made in C.

As a beginner's start, I think most programming courses take u through Binary Code and Hexadecimal. .. At least all of mine have, to the point ive torn at my hair lol. Not from the complexity of course, but because i was tired of seeing it. I think M$ 's advice is a good one. WHat i think though, is if u can master Java well, C++ will be a piece of cake for ya.
Dren
Yeah i guess we are, although i cannot comment on C++ as i am yet to do it, i only get to do it in two years, but i'm sure a friend of mine who'll be doing it next year will have me all over it before then.lol.But java is really not all that difficult maybe it's because i've been doing it the whole year. it has simple commands although new topics are difficult to get around at first. i saw this friend of mine do machione language and i wanted to know how it works. Deftone what year are you doing? thanx agent.maybe oneday i'll speak of ML as the past like you do.lol
Deftone
well i live abroad so I dun think our courses would match up. My class right now is simply called Programming 2. We are basically dealing with Swing and JavaMail at the current time (its my first year @ college btw) in order to make our own email client (like for example Outlook) but in Java.

What i meant about java, is not that its hard to understand but that its lines of code are sometimes longer than it would be for example for C++. Say in c u would do int main (argument goes here) ....and for java u would do public static void main(String[] args) etc etc. (these are rough examples) ...but I think java's sorta cool. What i dun like is what i said before, the functionality of it. What i also dislike but this has nothing to do with Java itself, is the fact that my teachers right now suck wink.gif They need to teach better hehee
M$ Agent #2
I do have one thing of recent interest a couple of days ago I downloaded a trial of Dark Basic its pretty cool I wrote my first program in like an hour smile.gif (I already knew like 3 versions of basic anyway) I may actualy buy it becouse its only like 60 bucks and it makes codeing actualy fun lol I know you cant do all the things you can do in C or even Java for that matter but for the kind of stuff I can make at home it will more then do smile.gif
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