anakinsolois
Apr 4 2004, 05:02 PM
This is a thread for Linkin Park fans. I think LP is a great band who really work on the music and make it sound good. Anyone who can a tribute, please join in. If u have somethin against the band, please dont flame, but just post, Id like to know.
Deftone
Apr 4 2004, 05:07 PM
topic moved to appropriate Thread.
It seems someone liked my idea of tributing a band lol. I think i was able to tell by your sig and ur avatar that u like LP a lot anakin. Personally I like em quite a bit, because I like how they mix a bit of electronic music with rock. Also like how they duo the singers between rap and singing.
anakinsolois
Apr 4 2004, 05:14 PM
Ya, it was ur idea. I was bouncing the idea round in my head, but laziness won over till today! I love LP, though i dont much care for electronic music unless accompanied like decent vocals (meaning i dont like Techno & Trance unless im dancing). And Mike raps, but Chester screams more than sings
hehe...chester...thats a funny name
linkin park is alright
theres a rumor that they gonna be on eminems next album.
anakinsolois
Apr 4 2004, 05:27 PM
they dont actually Rap, LP's rap is more hip-hop style. Ive never heard that rumor, but i tink its fake. Maybe Limp Bizkit or Metallica, they kind kno each odder well.
bangbang023
Apr 4 2004, 05:55 PM
I really think mike, as a rapper, is very underrated. His stuff has meaning to it and doesn't talk non stop bout his girls and cars.
anakinsolois
Apr 4 2004, 06:01 PM
Exactly, thats why i dont like most rap (xcept Eminem). LP has meaning to its songs. They have worked 6 years one one song (Figure.09 i think) before they thought it was good and released it. One of LP's best songs is "High Voltage". They didnt release it officialy, but performed it in some concerts and in a special edition CD, but you cant get the original these days, only the kornmaster remix (which suks in my opinion) .
bangbang023
Apr 4 2004, 06:06 PM
I have the original. I had to download it as opposed ot buying it, but I have it. I like the original remix though, makes it sound more serious.
| QUOTE (anakinsolois @ Apr 4 2004, 05:27 PM) |
| they dont actually Rap, LP's rap is more hip-hop style. Ive never heard that rumor, but i tink its fake. Maybe Limp Bizkit or Metallica, they kind kno each odder well. |
i read an interview with Proof (member of d12 and eminems best friend) and he says that cypress hill is gonna be on d12 album and LP on eminem's
the thing is that i am not so sure about if the interview real or not and if he was joking..or not
anyways my favorite song is points of authority remix
actz
Apr 4 2004, 09:53 PM
well i saw cypress hill at Eminem/D12 concert last year they tour together as a backup band ... anyways about hiphop/rap lyrics always about bling bling, cars, girls, money << that's all the comercial stuff you need to start listening to some underground stuff it will amaze those who want to hear some great lyrics.
I like LP but I dont listen to them all that much anymore but I used to listen a lot more last year along with POD.
Deftone
Apr 4 2004, 11:39 PM
chester screams yes but he can also sing and he has quite melodic voice. It is seen more in his previous band
anakinsolois
Apr 5 2004, 04:51 AM
yes, he has a melodic voice, as seen or rather heard at the end of Papercut. But i like his screaming equally well. If i remmeber right his previous band was a heavy metal band with the name starting with X.
@bb: i was talking about downloading it, but every time i got a copy, it was the remix!!
M$ Agent #2
Apr 5 2004, 05:52 AM
I used to live like about 70 miles from Lincoln Park its near detroit lol I wonder if its the same place just spelled right

they have good music
anakinsolois
Apr 5 2004, 06:22 AM
yep, the band was based in Detroit and they named it after the park, well sort of. They were called Hybrid Theory, but then shifter to Linkin Park
Deftone
Apr 5 2004, 01:17 PM
no, thats not the band i was referring to.
Chester had an older band called Grey Daze.
bangbang023
Apr 5 2004, 02:53 PM
Yeah Grey Daze is pretty good. They included a second cd in a 2 cd set in Europe and they included all the grey daze songs.
anakinsolois
Apr 5 2004, 03:01 PM
were any of LP's other members in Grey Daze??
Deftone
Apr 5 2004, 03:13 PM
no i think it was a completely different band
bangbang023
Apr 5 2004, 03:25 PM
yeah 100% separate. Chester was the last member of LP.
anakinsolois
Apr 5 2004, 03:38 PM
Last?? I though he and mike founded. Phoenix is officially the last member, since he left before Hybrid Theory and joined for Meteora.
bangbang023
Apr 5 2004, 03:56 PM
Well Phoenix is last yes, but actually mIke and Mr Hahn formed LP, as far as I have heard. They were school mates.
anakinsolois
Apr 5 2004, 04:03 PM
Not exactly school mates they apparently met up in art school.
grr....012
Apr 5 2004, 04:07 PM
i love love love LP

they are my favs:)
bangbang023
Apr 5 2004, 04:10 PM
| QUOTE (anakinsolois @ Apr 5 2004, 11:03 AM) |
| Not exactly school mates they apparently met up in art school. |
same school, friends in school, school mates lol.
gofikphoenix
Apr 9 2004, 02:44 PM
Yeh Mr Hahn and Mike met up in art school. Rob, Brad and Phoenix followed. But Phoenix use to play Electric Guitar and Brad made him switch to Bass. Then came Chester from Grey Daze (Great Band) They called themselves Hybrid Theory and released Hybrid Theory EP then Phoenix left to go back to college. They renamed themselves Linkin Park and released Hybrid Theory November 2000. Then Reanimation the summer after (August 2001). After that Phoenix rejoined the band. On March 23rd 2003 they released Meteora.
Thats pretty much a lil history of them. I love Linkin Park soooo much. You can get the original High Voltage off the net or on Hybrid Theory EP which you could get off Linkin Park about 1 1/2 years ago. I think if you join LP Underground you get Hybrid Theory EP...you use to.
anakinsolois
Apr 9 2004, 04:57 PM
LP Underground is nice, but not worth it here in India, bcuz they dont play concerts here. LP has become a raging phenomeneon here in India (well in my school anywayz) with nearly 50% of my class being hardcore fans and another 10% just like em. But then our seniors HATE LP and like Guns 'n Roses and older bands.
Deftone
Apr 9 2004, 05:28 PM
yeah Guns N Roses is a classic, but I do not hate LP coz of them
gofikphoenix
Apr 9 2004, 08:05 PM
I know people like that, its kind of because (no offence fans) until lately (with Guns 'n' Rose's new album) Guns 'n' Rose's have been silent but people who where younger when they first appeared still love them. It will be the same in 5 or so years some people will still love Linkin Park when others will love the latest best rock band and Linkin Park fans may hate them. It all goes round..
Adolph
Apr 9 2004, 09:30 PM
A band that caters to teens is hardly a great band. Notice how there aren't many 30+ that listen to them. It probably has to do with their lyrics:
"I wanna heal,
I wanna feel ,
Like I'm close to something real,
I wanna let go of the pain I felt so long,
Erase all the pain till its gone.."
"I was confused"
YALL WANT A SINGLE SAY <<removed>> THAT
hahahaha today's bands are a joke.
TrickFinlay2
Apr 9 2004, 09:42 PM
how do you not like LP? they arent my favorite band but i still do listen to them. i have all of their cds. i listen to alot of older stuff though like hendrix and the doors also rap/hip-hop
Deftone
Apr 9 2004, 10:01 PM
| QUOTE (gofikphoenix @ Apr 9 2004, 03:05 PM) |
| I know people like that, its kind of because (no offence fans) until lately (with Guns 'n' Rose's new album) Guns 'n' Rose's have been silent but people who where younger when they first appeared still love them. It will be the same in 5 or so years some people will still love Linkin Park when others will love the latest best rock band and Linkin Park fans may hate them. It all goes round.. |
Obviously you young folks don't know a whole lot about the issue. Guns N Roses wasnt silent for a long time, the band Guns N Roses, the true band disbanded in the early 90's. Axel Rose (lead singer) kept the title under copywright issues and started training a new crew to become the next Guns N Roses. The new cd coming out now is from that new band with Axel still at vocals. It is not the real guns n roses, nor will it ever be, the chemistry simply isnt there. Which is why im afraid that young ppl like gofik will believe that this is the real band and judge them accordingly, which is not the case..
On to something more on the topic at hand:
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A band that caters to teens is hardly a great band. Notice how there aren't many 30+ that listen to them. It probably has to do with their lyrics:
"I wanna heal, I wanna feel , Like I'm close to something real, I wanna let go of the pain I felt so long, Erase all the pain till its gone.."
"I was confused"
YALL WANT A SINGLE SAY F*CK THAT
hahahaha today's bands are a joke. |
Ignorance is a powerful thing Adolph. The reason a lot of teens listen to LP is because their lyrics (thank you for posting an example) relate to them best, because they speak of pains suffered and what one must endure. As a teenager, you begin to experience new changes around you, begin to understand them but not fully and so in your wake of knowledge there are a lot of things that must happen for you to trully step into the adult world. This includes getting hurt, betrayed, etc. Bands like LP appeal to the youth because they reveal situations that so resemble what these teenagers have been through.
Also ..on that last part of your comment. Y'all want a single is a song by Korn not LP, obviously you have not bothered to read up much on the subject.
The only thing I will agree with you on is that newer bands today aren't as good as they used to be. But that is all, generalizing is a sad thing to do.
anakinsolois
Apr 10 2004, 02:15 AM
Yes, and unlike several 'commercial' pop & rap bands, LP are totally into their music, and spend a long time developing it. The effort they put into the lyrics and the beats is what has propelled them to being one of the foremost alternative metal/ rock bands.
Adolph
Apr 10 2004, 06:03 AM
| QUOTE (anakinsolois @ Apr 10 2004, 02:15 AM) |
| Yes, and unlike several 'commercial' pop & rap bands, LP are totally into their music, and spend a long time developing it. The effort they put into the lyrics and the beats is what has propelled them to being one of the foremost alternative metal/ rock bands. |
You sound like a complete tool, Anakin. They sure are all about the music. Just look at the person(s) that produced their albums that aren't in the band.
Their lyrics are the same ones I wrote in my journal when I was in the 8th grade feeling angsty. Congratulations to those that relate to them.
I'm well aware that's from a Korn song, I made that statement just before my other one stating today's bands are a joke. I'm also quite aware why the youth is so into them and bands like them.
It must be quite a challenge writing lyrics that identify with teenagers.
.::PHPfanatic::.
Apr 10 2004, 06:15 AM
Okay I'm probably going to get in trouble with some people eep. I haven't read the whole thread because it's all pretty much the same type of discussion. I have listened to one song by Linkin Park and that was "Mission Impossible".
Here's my opinion on this genre (heavy metal, rap, etc):
I think it's a fetish, I think it's an obsession, I think it's "trying to fit in with the crowd". One statement that says this to me is one by anakin...
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| Not exactly school mates they apparently met up in art school. |
You guys are arguing over something totally trivial. You're diving into this guy's life like he's the biggest deal on the face of this Earth. I've only listened to one of his songs but I can safely say he's not. Actz mentioned something about bling bling (cringe, I can't stand this newage word), cars and girls and how if you listen to the underground tracks it's much better. Well this cd may be better but it's by the same guy right, so it doesn't really matter.
One other thing I'm confused about and it's directed at you, bb. You don't seem to like the use of swear words very much, right (I know you can see where this is going), so why do you like this music? You've explained it to me before and I think I pretty much understand but it still seems like it's just digging you into the hole deeper (I can't remember which pill did which in "The Matrix" so I won't use the "Alice in Wonderland" quote).
Here's another thing I hate about this kind of music. Not just rap but the majority of singing in general (ie: most of the "artists" they have on Letterman and Conan). Almost all of them seem like total phonies, it's almost like it comes with the territory. You can tell just by looking at their mannerisms that they just think they are the epitome of everything, they are superior to everyone. The perfect example of this is anakin's avatar, I don't know who he is. Look at him closely ... he thinks he is the greatest with his hands gripped tight around the microphone, eyes closed, bleached hair and what looks like an earring in his left ear.
One last thing is that it seems the majority of people who like this type of music are sports fanatics. Like this show that's playing in the background right now by the name of "Last Call with Carson Daily". I hear him blabbing because he comes on after Conan and I don't really care. He always has obnoxious music, probably similar to this, playing. I've listened to what he's talking about occasionally and he doesn't seem like a likeable person. He's what I like to call "testosterone induced", most likely sports (especially football) is the most important thing to him. I think a lot of this music accompanies sports and this is probably why practically everyone my age likes it. Before anyone rejects my arguments just think about what I'm saying.
edit: Stick around Adolph, you and I seem quite a bit alike. If you feel this way about today's music who knows what else.
Adolph
Apr 10 2004, 06:19 AM
Wow. PHPFanatic is my twin.
Deftone
Apr 10 2004, 06:24 AM
| QUOTE (.::PHPfanatic::. @ Apr 10 2004, 01:15 AM) |
Okay I'm probably going to get in trouble with some people eep. I haven't read the whole thread because it's all pretty much the same type of discussion. I have listened to one song by Linkin Park and that was "Mission Impossible".
Here's my opinion on this genre (heavy metal, rap, etc): I think it's a fetish, I think it's an obsession, I think it's "trying to fit in with the crowd". One statement that says this to me is one by anakin...
| QUOTE | | Not exactly school mates they apparently met up in art school. |
You guys are arguing over something totally trivial. You're diving into this guy's life like he's the biggest deal on the face of this Earth. I've only listened to one of his songs but I can safely say he's not. Actz mentioned something about bling bling (cringe, I can't stand this newage word), cars and girls and how if you listen to the underground tracks it's much better. Well this cd may be better but it's by the same guy right, so it doesn't really matter.
One other thing I'm confused about and it's directed at you, bb. You don't seem to like the use of swear words very much, right (I know you can see where this is going), so why do you like this music? You've explained it to me before and I think I pretty much understand but it still seems like it's just digging you into the hole deeper (I can't remember which pill did which in "The Matrix" so I won't use the "Alice in Wonderland" quote).
Here's another thing I hate about this kind of music. Not just rap but the majority of singing in general (ie: most of the "artists" they have on Letterman and Conan). Almost all of them seem like total phonies, it's almost like it comes with the territory. You can tell just by looking at their mannerisms that they just think they are the epitome of everything, they are superior to everyone. The perfect example of this is anakin's avatar, I don't who he is. Look at him closely ... he thinks he is the greatest with his hands gripped tight around the microphone, eyes closed, bleached hair and what looks like an earring in his left ear.
One last thing is that it seems the majority of people who like this type of music are sports fanatics. Like this show that's playing in the background right now by the name of "Last Call with Carson Daily". I hear him blabbing because he comes on after Conan and I don't really care. He always has obnoxious music, probably similar to this, playing. I've listened to what he's talking about occasionally and he doesn't seem like a likeable person. He's what I like to call "testosterone induced", most likely sports (especially football) is the most important thing to him. I think a lot of this music accompanies sports and this is probably why practically everyone my age likes it. Before anyone rejects my arguments just think about what I'm saying.
edit: Stick around Adolph, you and I seem quite a bit alike. If you feel this way about today's music who knows what else.
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oh the blatant accusations hurt so much PHP.
let me point out a few things:
1. Linkin Park songs do not contain swearing.
2. BB will prolly answer this but he listens to the songs because they mean something to him on an emotional level and he likes them
3. that guy in the picture is one of the singers from Linkin Park. He is not thinking hes the big shot, he is gripping hte microphone and screaming out of pure emotion, because he feels what he is singing. Do not judge everyone too soon and generalize how all bands are.
4. Another generelization. I dun like sports but i like LP. My friends dun like sports and they like LP. The quote on everyone being sports fanatics is the biggest stereotype ive heard thus far.
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to adolph:
i do not see u getting out there and composing inspiring music. Each music type is targetted at different age groups, its only obvious. the LP guys aren't even that old to begin with, so its only natural they compose music for people closer to their age. Also, if u have a rock band u would like to think that u can appeal to younger ppl, that have the spirit u once had.
ALso, u cannot claim only teens listen to it coz its also generalizing. Metallica for one has a lot of fans (as seen in concerts) that are well over 30 and have been following them since the 80's..
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the reason all tihs bothers me is once again, this is a tribute post, if u cant contribute for the sake of the band, then dont contribute at all.
.::PHPfanatic::.
Apr 10 2004, 06:39 AM
Maybe the topic title should be changed then.
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| This is a thread for Linkin Park fans. I think LP is a great band who really work on the music and make it sound good. Anyone who can a tribute, please join in. If u have somethin against the band, please dont flame, but just post, Id like to know. |
Screaming for the sake of screaming isn't because they're "getting into it". It would be nice if I could hear what they were saying at least.
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| 1. Linkin Park songs do not contain swearing. |
I know for sure the majority of the bands do. Maybe there's something special about LP.
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| YALL WANT A SINGLE SAY F*CK THAT |
Isn't the 'F' word a swear word? The last time I checked it was. I'm assuming this is a lyric from Linkin Park since it's a continuation to the lyrics in anakin's signature. If I'm incorrect it's because I don't like this kind of music and therefore don't listen to it.
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| oh the blatant accusations hurt so much PHP. |
Accusations? These are all just my own opinions judging from various bands I've seen on late shows. They don't have anything to say at'll. Money ... where?
| QUOTE |
| 3. that guy in the picture is one of the singers from Linkin Park. He is not thinking hes the big shot, he is gripping hte microphone and screaming out of pure emotion, because he feels what he is singing. Do not judge everyone too soon and generalize how all bands are. |
Okay I can't say anything about this guy because I've never heard him sing before but you're missing my point. I'm using this guy (one of the singers from Linkin Park) as an example to the type of behavior I'm talking about.
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| 4. Another generelization. I dun like sports but i like LP. My friends dun like sports and they like LP. The quote on everyone being sports fanatics is the biggest stereotype ive heard thus far. |
One last thing is that it seems the majority of people who like this type of music are sports fanatics.
Oh no, we can't have someone post against the band ... they're gods on Earth.
anakinsolois
Apr 10 2004, 07:14 AM
ok php, youve just ruffled my feathers (i dont have any btw)
@php: The mission impossible song was by Limp Bizkit not Linkin Park. Limp Bizkit is exactly the opposite of LP, but I like em nonetheless, but there's a reason that LP is my fav band, not Limp Bizkit.
1.) LP does NOT swear in any of their songs. EVER.
2.) The quote is from a Korn song, not an LP one. LP doesnt swear. EVER. It is not a continuation of my sig, just Adolph's attempt at a joke.
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| QUOTE | | Not exactly school mates they apparently met up in art school. |
You guys are arguing over something totally trivial. You're diving into this guy's life like he's the biggest deal on the face of this Earth. I've only listened to one of his songs but I can safely say he's not. Actz mentioned something about bling bling (cringe, I can't stand this newage word), cars and girls and how if you listen to the underground tracks it's much better. Well this cd may be better but it's by the same guy right, so it doesn't really matter.
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3.) Im not aruging bout something trivial, but since i consider myself a fan, id like to know how the band was formed.
4.) Actz says that most rappers sing bout thier cars & girls. LP is not a rap group. it cant exactly be shunted into a group, they produce hybrid music. they do anything BUT sing bout cars and girls. They sing from the heart, and you have to listen to thier songs to truly understand what its all about.
5.) I HATE sports. Well, i dont mind watching the cricket world cup, but thats it. I suck big time @ sports. I cant play for nuts. There are no such things as stereotypes.
6.) Chester, the guy in my avatar doesnt think hes the greatest guy on earth. You have to listen to the lyrics, not just judge from a snapshot from a music video. Sure, i dont think ear-rings or tattoo's are cool, but i still like the band, bcuz they sing from the heart not from a songwriters type sheet.
7.) Theyre not Gods on earth, and if u have read my first post, i encouraged people who dislike the band to give thier reasons. So, like now i can show you where uve made an error, since youve attemped to compare LP to rap bands without even listening to their music.
Adolph
Apr 10 2004, 07:42 AM
I counter someone's statement then Deftone refutes some garbage because I don't personally go out and compose music?! HAHAHAHAHA
Weak.
anakinsolois
Apr 10 2004, 12:24 PM
well adolph, thats bcuz ppl who normally counter statements are supposed to have valid reasons like php here.
gofikphoenix
Apr 10 2004, 01:07 PM
| QUOTE |
| 1.) LP does NOT swear in any of their songs. EVER. |
Thats is completly right, the only song i have heard with Linkin Park swearing was one which wasn't linkin park it was a song called 'System' on the Queen of the Damned Soundtrack, it was Chester Bennington (who i love!) not Linkin Park. Adolph have you ever read any of the lyrics? My mum who is 56 and is not at all 'bling' read through the lyrics inside Hybrid Theory and afterwards she honestly said to me that they did mean something worthwhile. She says that they lifted her spirits up, she hates listening to Linkin Park but she says the lyrics are appealing. I like to call it 'great lyrical content' unlike bands like the offspring who tend to go on and on about these random things but like linkin park i love them but they are totally different.
Deftone
Apr 10 2004, 01:12 PM
obviously you didnt read the whole of my argument adolph. My opinion was, if you are totally not going to contribute even with constructive criticism then don't contribute at al.
as for your comments PHP:
you are still generalizing too much. I never stated screaming was a way of feeling everything thats going through in your mind. I just put it as an example. How can you say you used the picture as an example of the arrogant people you are talking about if the picture we've already told you does not fit with that pattern of people?
most rock bands swear? that is also a big generalization. It depends on what genre of rock you are and how the band started. I know plenty of bands who never swear and are just as heavy as the bands that do.
anakin is right, do not confuse rap with rock.
And I am still telling you, rock is not mostly for sports fanatics. Anyone can be into rock, because rock is about feeling, rock is about "sticking it to the man" (as Jack Black so eloquently put it) , its about doing something because its the best way to express who you are and what you feel and rock it out on the stage floor.
I think most of all you are making judgements that arent based on any actual facts but just personal speculations that have little if no truth.
F is a cuss word indeed but that example was from a Korn song, not Linkin Park song as anakin pointed out. I thought that would cause confusion even AFTER i stated otherwise, so obviously someone did not read the posts and decided to plunge in head first.
shravan
Apr 10 2004, 02:06 PM
Linkin' Park ROCKZZZ
.::PHPfanatic::.
Apr 10 2004, 11:31 PM
| QUOTE (Deftone @ Apr 10 2004, 08:12 AM) |
| F is a cuss word indeed but that example was from a Korn song, not Linkin Park song as anakin pointed out. I thought that would cause confusion even AFTER i stated otherwise, so obviously someone did not read the posts and decided to plunge in head first. |
I guess I'll have to quote myself.
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| I haven't read the whole thread because it's all pretty much the same type of discussion. |
Sorry, I confused Linkin Park with Limp Bizkit, which I've always thought is just the dumbest name.
This is what I like to call a "You say tomato, I say tomaato" type of discussion (actually I just made that up just now). There's no way I'm going to be able to make you think about anything I say and/or change your mind.
Deftone
Apr 11 2004, 01:30 AM
indeed you wont because as it is commonly known, i am always correct
anakinsolois
Apr 11 2004, 01:47 AM
and as it is universally known so am I.